Post by kernowlover65 on Dec 8, 2018 10:35:41 GMT -5
I am new here and have just recently started to research my tree. My surname is Curnow and my dad has always told me that we are descended from the Curnows of Towednack.
I did sign up to ancestry but the information is not always accurate it seems and with so many Curnows it's confusing, and my tree ended up with King James in it which I'm sure is not right. I apologise if this has an old subject but the royal link came from Thomas Curnow marrying Catherine Carey wise father was Sir Edward Carey, but I researched it and I'm sure this is wrong!
Hi, I am not usually the greeter here but am online and welcome you to the site. What names do you have confidence in? Forget the family trees you see on Ancestry, start with your own information, and let us know where you have questions. You probably have many cousins here ready to help.
Post by Cornish Terrier on Dec 8, 2018 13:04:18 GMT -5
And welcome from me also to the often Pythonesque world of Curnows where often it seems people have made things up as they went along!
Catherine daughter of Sir Edward Carey! What will they come up with next!!!
Just as a matter of interest before replying to your post I googled 'Sir Edward Carey' and the very first item that came up was a history and family tree of the Carey's taken from 'The History of Parliament'. Following the line in this pedigree to Sir Edward Carey shows that his daughter Catherine was born 1570 at Cockington in Devon and that she died 24th September 1635 after having married Henry LONGUEVILLE 15th January 1597.
The marriage to Henry Longueville messes things up a bit but her birth in 1570 and death in 1635 would fit with the wife of Thomas Curnow. And the fact that Catherine wife of Thomas Curnow was buried 7th May 1635 also messes things up a little I guess …………… but otherwise someone obviously thought they were onto a good thing!
You were quite right in your suspicion that there was something wrong with that scenario!
Fact is there is no document to my knowledge that offers a maiden surname for Thomas Curnow's wife just as there seems to be no extant record of their marriage.
As Zibetha says, there are cousins here ready to help but that will be with descendants of Thomas and Catherine. Until some genuine documentary evidence surfaces that offers further information I'm afraid the origins of Catherine in particular will have to remain a mystery.
Post by kernowlover65 on Dec 8, 2018 15:38:50 GMT -5
Thank you for the welcome and your replies. I was getting excited thinking I had royal ancestry but I just thought how strange that someone from Towednack would marry someone from the aristocracy. I'm slowly learning that the ancestry site is a bit hit and miss, which is why I researched further.i did Google the Carey bloodline although didn't look into it that deeply but enough to see that there were no Curnows.
The rest of my ancestors are probably wrong too then so after weeks of research on the site I'm no further forward except that my ancestors come from West penwith. Thanks for the information and I'll explore the knowledge on this site which appears much more legitimate!
Post by Cornish Terrier on Dec 8, 2018 23:18:20 GMT -5
The best idea is for you to start with what you know is absolutely correct and establish a reliable base from which to being your search. If you can trace your direct Curnow line absolutely reliably to a single documented point (such as the 1911 Census for example) then we begin to encounter information that was most likely provided by your ancestor.
Information in that Census will enable us to work on the next step - that may be the 1901 Census or even the 1891 or 1881 Census. But it would hopefully also give other clues such as exactly which Parish to begin searching and this is a time for which we can get access to most original Parish Registers.
For events after 1911 we have FreeBMD and the GRO Indexes to work with and in the case of births the GRO Index gives, in most cases, the maiden surname of the mother.
Step by step we can track your line backwards and with work already done we should be able to iron-out most hurdles. There are still some things that are not solved but we should be able to help you track your direct line with at least reasonable accuracy back to the earliest known ancestor that can be proved with reliable evidence.
At that point you would be in the same boat as the rest of us.
In case you missed my post on the 'Newby' bit, my G-G-Grandmother was Elizabeth Curnow (1820) married in Towednack in 1840 to Thomas Williams. Her father Thomas is reported to be a sexton and he had 5 other daughters Mary, (1810) Phillis (1812) Jane (1814) Phillis (again 1816) Lystra (1821) and lastly a son THOMAS (1826)
I haven't chased this lot up at all other than Elizabeth (Williams)
Hi & welcome! :)If you take CT's advice and lay out for yourself exactly what you know for certain about your Curnow line (not what others have copied ad infinitum onto online trees, PLEASE as Zib says, put them to one side! ), identifying your father's parents, then that father's parents via FreeBMD, you should get back to c1911 when as CT says, we can help via actual online records of marriages, births, baptisms and census entries - and the many 1000s of hours of painstaking research done into Curnows by people like CT, and in more recent years myself.
Don't put anything on this site about living persons, I would suggest.
Looking forward to reading what your starting point is, and helping with your first query.