William John Bryant

[carter56]

Hello

This is my first post on this site so please forgive me if I get things wrong.

I am looking for information on WILLIAM JOHN BRYANT c1873 Uny Lelant Cornwall died 1925 Sutter Creek California USA

He married ALICE MAUD SMITHERHAM in Michigan USA IN 1896

I Have been trying to find passenger lists so I can see how and when exactly he left for USA and if he was on his own.

On the USA census it says his immigration year was 1890.

Any help would be most welcome

Thank you 
Linda

[Cornish Terrier]

Hi Linda and Welcome to the site.

If you are having trouble with the Immigration and passenger lists you could try Citizenship and Naturalization records which sometimes provide details of arrival. I'm having a horrible time with internet connection at the moment so can't do too much but try the other records and see how you go.

CT

[carter56]

Thank you so much for your advice. Im a bit rubbish at this

[zibetha]

Hi, Linda,

If W J Bryant immigrated in 1890, it is possible you may find him on the Castle Garden website: castlegarden.org. CG was in operation 1820-1892; Ellis Island 1892-1954: ellisisland.org. Many people immigrated through Canada, and those records are less available. There is the issue of how many passenger lists survived and whether more will be transcribed. I do have some luck from time to time, though, and that is great. Depending upon when a person applied for citizenship, the information on a naturalization record varies significantly (if you can even find it.)

Good luck with your search,

Zib

[sue]

www.findagrave.com

Has Wm J Bryant buried in the Odd Fellows Cemetery, with a photo of the grave marker cross showing a birth date of 17 January 1873. (I can't read the marker, but apparently a transcriber could!)

If one looks at the England 1891 census, there is a William J Bryant at Balnoon Lelant living with his mother Elizabeth & younger siblings. His age of 18 in 1891 is a close match to the chap buried 1925 Sutter Creek, if you have reason to know that the person you are looking for details of was definitely born Lelant. This chap can be found in 1881 as W J Bryant.

Since he is resident with his parents Wm J Bryant & mother EJ Bryant, clearly this corresponds to the chap marrying Alice in 1896 Michigan, as those are the named parents on the marriage entry.

Bryant is a fairly common name, but www.findmypast.co.uk in its Travel & Migration section has an entry for a Bryant Wm J born 1873 — 1891 in records of Passenger Lists Leaving UK 1890-1960, going to Quebec, Canada.

This is a possibility perhaps worth pursuing..... (I don't have a subscription, so can't view the detail/image.)

William's declared immigration year of 1890 on the 1900 census in Silver Bow Montana may be slightly inaccurate? Or he may indeed have 1st gone to the U.S. in 1890, & come back home to Cornwall for a bit before emigrating permanently?

[Cornish Terrier]

You are looking at the marriage of William John Bryant to Elizabeth Jane Quick which took place at Lelant 5th October 1872.

William John son of John and Elizabeth Jane Bryant of Balnoon, miner was baptized 30th February 1873 at the Primitive Methodist Chapel at Lelant. According to the baptism record he was born 15th January 1873. (Note that the father was referred to as 'John' and not 'William John')

Only two days different to the birthdate on the gravestone which is quite accurate in my experience of US death information and also of monumental inscriptions in general!

But I should think this is who you are looking for.

CT

[carter56]

Thank you so much everyone. You have been a great help. The Bryants are my sons mother in laws family and she lives in usa and I said I would help her find her English roots .
Thank you once again

[Cornish Terrier]

We are always happy to help so if you have any further queries please post them here and we will do our best to guide you to the information you need.

CT

[zibetha]

The Bryant name was nagging at me, so I looked into the Michigan angle of this and discovered that the Bryants related to a father/son DNA match in Australia on a different line that I have on my tree.

Anyway, there are threads here regarding the Bryant family in Lelant, and I think this one relates -- excerpt from GeorgeC:

"Hi Fanny BRYANT did not have Mitchell in her name.

Her brother John BRYANT b 18 May 1825 m Margaret Mitchell BERRIMAN b 23 Sep 1827 on the 31 Jan 1850 St Ives.
and children were:

William John Bryant b 3 Nov 1850
Matthew Mitchell Bryant b 1853
Catherine Frances Bryant b 15 July 1855
Thomas Mitchell Bryant b 11 July 1858
James H Bryant b 1860
Job Mitchell Bryant b1862
Wilmot Mitchell Bryant b 1864"

William John and wife, Elizabeth Jane Quick, were the parents of William John 1873, if I've got it right. AS he had a sister named Margaret Mitchell Bryant, I suspect I am on the right track. Of his siblings listed above, the last four all went to the USA staying in or passing through Michigan. So young William had relatives to join.

I would bet his final destination of Amador, California was related to his having uncles there.

William John Junior's uncle James Henry married in Ironwood, Michigan in 1889 and later lived in Amador, California as did Thomas. Job lived in Michigan-- first Upper Peninsula later in lower. Aunt Wilmot came to the US in 1896 (that passenger list I can find) with her daughter, Mable, and her mother, Margaret Mitchell Berryman Bryant, to join her husband, Joshua Smith Johns, whose mother was also of the Bryant family.

Feeling a little dizzy-- it's interesting where the DNA and paper trails meet.

Z

[zibetha]

Oh, and I forget to add that William John Jr's brother, James, also emigrated the US and winding up in Amador. Census gives his immigration date as 1896. I did not search other pages of the passenger record, but he was not on the one with his aunt Wilmot and grandmother on the Laucania who arrived in New York in 1896.