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Post by Glazin2018 on May 23, 2018 4:55:17 GMT -5
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I have another issue I have been working on and still have some research left to do but thought I would put the scenario here and see what others thought.
Two William Quicks...
The first died in 1889 aged 76 years. The husband of Rachael and married around 1834 - in New South Wales. They had 8 children although they only start to appear in the NSW birth records around 1843 - Margaret. The name Margaret triggered possibility - that William was the son of William Quick and Margaret Polmear, although in the back of my mind the shipping record of 1854 did not make any sense unless he had left his family for a trip home. This William was said to have been born in England which did allow for the possibility of it being Cornwall. Children included Joseph, William John, Sarah Ann, Rose Elizabeth, Susan Jane, Margaret and two more females probably between 1834 and 1841.
And then I came across an old transcription for another death for 1885 - aged 73 years.. making his birth date very similar to the above - and said to have been born in Penzance... so perhaps more likely to be the son of William and Margaret as I thought above - this William unmarried but no further information.
I would be interested to know if there is any research already available out there before I go too much further.
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Post by Glazin2018 on May 23, 2018 5:02:14 GMT -5
Ah I see the answer already in Trove. The first William Quick who died in 1889 was from Devon according to an obituary in the The Maitland Mercury and Hunter River General Advertiser (NSW : 1843 - 1893) dated Tuesday 16 April 1889.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 23, 2018 5:59:10 GMT -5
Following is a copy of the notes I have in my database for William son of William Quick and Margaret Polmear:-
1851 Census - William was in Bodmin Gaol.
29th September 1854 - arrived NSW aboard 'Lady Ann' as an assisted passenger - parents recorded as William and Margaret, both dead.
NSW Death Indexes show the death of William son of William Quick at Redfern in 1884 but unfortunately no age or mother's name is recorded.
NSW Archives also have a record in the Deceased Estate Files for William Quick who died at Redfern 17th June 1884. (Item Z06168 [20/6997]
Neither of these confirm this is the same William and documents need to be seen to assist in identifying him.
Your note shows the years as 1885 but I think we are looking at the same man. I am sure that was my most recent effort to try and identify William.
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Post by Glazin2018 on May 23, 2018 14:19:22 GMT -5
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The 65 year old William at Redfern was the husband of Mary Jane Quick who died two years later in 1886 from the same address of Woodburn Street in Redfern. I believe this Mary Jane to be Mary Jane O"Neill and she married William Quick in NSW in 1851 which is a bit early for the arrival of the son of William Q and Margaret Polmear in NSW in 1854. Both the 1884 and 1886 deaths can be seen in the Trove database. Somewhere I have seen that Mary Jane's husband was from Devon so I would need to go looking again for that source.
I like the 72 year old who died at Wiseman's Creek in 1885 even though his parents aren't known it was stated that he was from Penzance.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 23, 2018 16:11:12 GMT -5
One of the problems with my tentative conclusion was that no age was recorded in the death index. My second problem now is that I cannot find the article you refer to in Trove which gives his age or the article about William of Wiseman's Creek.
I did find a Government Gazette entry about William of Wiseman's Creek in regards to Intestacy and creditors.
I have no removed the notes from my database and (at least temporarily) changed the details for William son of William Quick and Margaret Polmear. I now show him as probably the man who died in 1885 age 72.
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Post by Glazin2018 on May 23, 2018 20:27:17 GMT -5
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Newspaper record for 1884...
I will check where my 1885 info comes from but it might possible be an email from times gone by.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 24, 2018 4:05:05 GMT -5
Thanks Lannanta - I have not included this William in the database as he is from Devon but it does clear things up for me.
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Post by Glazin2018 on Jun 13, 2018 20:19:28 GMT -5
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I am guessing therefore that William Quick (aged 28 to 33 years) of St Ives, late of Zennor is the prisoner at the Bodmin Gaol during the period of 1843 to 1850 and of course still there in the 1851 census as you suggest?
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jun 13, 2018 21:30:06 GMT -5
Yes, that would be my conclusion on the current evidence.
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