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Post by artangel on Jan 30, 2018 3:07:08 GMT -5
Yes Dry Creek I know has come up before, I think in some written record I saw.
I'm sure the name must be John Distin Hill - but Emma Sanders, I'm not familiar with, seems a 'ring-in'.
The John Howard (son of Nicholas Marden Howard) who married Elizabeth Howard - she was I think the daughter of a John Howard, who came from London. The two Howard families were not related (but 2 sons from one Howard family married 2 Howard daughters from the other family) - and I believe the two families lived in the same district - Springton? Mt Pleasant?
I'd best stop here! I'm feeling a bit confused by some of the things mentioned, but perhaps there are some 'red herrings'! Cheers
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jan 30, 2018 6:08:30 GMT -5
Emma Sanders (or Saunders) appears to be quite correct as the wife of John Distin Hill. The SA Birth Index shows birth records for 8 children to this couple and there were apparently at least two others whose records for some reason to not appear. The family arrived at Port Adelaide in 1839 with one daughter, Elizabeth Jane, after having lost a son on the voyage. The son was Nathaniel who appears to have been born in late 1837 and another son of that name was born at Dry Creek in 1850. I have not found the marriage for John and Emma as yet as they appear to have married in Devon where records can be quite difficult to access.
John Diston Hill of Dry Creek age 80 died at Dry Creek 7th May 1892 Emma Hill age 84, widow of John Distin Hill, died at West Hindmarsh 5th June 1901
I have found marriages for most of their children but I think I might let you find them for yourself. But in case it might help jog some more memories two of the daughters married sons of James Oxenberry Tiddy. Emma Hill married Matthew Thomas Tiddy at Enfield in 1877 and Alice Hill married Nicholas John Tiddy also at Enfield in 1890. Another three siblings also married at Enfield including Mary Ann when she married William Henry Paul. Brother Alfred Hill married at Hindmarsh.
I mentioned the Tiddy family in particular as they came from St Mawes in Cornwall and it is a name that may be unusual enough to be remembered. (btw - you will also find it in the records as TEDDY)
Look over all the information and do a little hunting for yourself to see what you can find. When you are ready just post another note hear and ask for any help you need. If you have any trouble finding the details I found then I will be happy to help point you to where they are.
CT
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Post by artangel on Jan 30, 2018 21:08:12 GMT -5
Yes 'Tiddy' I knew was a family name/relatives of my grandfather! - (also 'Marsh')
Yes, there was a child died on the voyage over! But I hadn't been sure which side of the family.
And I thought there was an Elizabeth Jane Hill!, I just didn't know where she fitted in.
I really appreciate all your help, giving pieces that are falling into place. I must sit and order it all, written down, at the moment it's all a bit of a jumble.
Many thanks!
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jan 31, 2018 0:31:22 GMT -5
Always happy to help. I will leave you now to work through the information and piece things together with any information you already had. As you work through all of this there will be more questions and perhaps more sense might be made of scraps of information in your memory. Hopefully that will lead to more clues that will lead us to finding the origins of John Paul and Ann Pooley.
Ct
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Post by Isambard on Feb 7, 2018 11:37:26 GMT -5
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Feb 7, 2018 13:43:15 GMT -5
I actually just finished reading that article as it was in the MSN Feed that comes up when I started MS Edge just prior to logging in here. And it is certainly most interesting.
CT
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Post by artangel on Feb 10, 2018 21:22:48 GMT -5
Interesting. I had also come across the theory that celts (Irish) came from Northern Spain (Galicia?) - hence dark colouring (Galicians can often have dark/black hair and blue eyes - like the Irish can) Stories of 'the little people' - these people may have also been small.
And I'd also heard mention in regards to Cornwall and the contact with pirates (and ports/sea trade etc) that there may have been intermingling with Spanish, French, and maybe others through these seafarers. (I hadn't really heard about the Armada tale until recently) My surname, Paul also appears in France, Germany, even Czechoslovakia, and others.
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