Post by spikeharwood on Jul 23, 2017 19:04:59 GMT -5
For those who have tested on FTDNA or uploaded their results from Ancestry or similar testing company, there is a Cornwall Project on FTDNA. The primary focus is Y-DNA but it was announced recently that they were taking over the Cornwall mtDNA Project. They also accept those who have tested only at the autosomal level but there is a requirement that members must be at least 1/16th Cornish. It is a reasonably active group with over 360 members and it has its own group chat. Being a member of a group makes discounts available for Y-DNA and mtDNA tests. Also it gives access to the Advanced Matches tool which enables searching for matches from within the Cornwall database. I'm 9/16th Cornish and have found matches with seven other members of the group - my sister has ten matches. I joined my father up (he contributes 2/16ths of my Cornishness)and he matches with three other members, so at a quick glance I can see which parents my matches are coming from. Well worth the price of admission - which is free
Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 24, 2017 19:46:22 GMT -5
Well ...... now the learning really needs to begin!
I received the results of my DNA test last night and now that I have something 'personal' to work with I do need to get much more involved with everybody and, hopefully, learn from any mistakes that may have been made. But first thing is first .....
I have only just now logged in to see what I have to look forward to and on the face of it I think the results very broadly confirm what I have already managed to find out. As per the provided charts/details:-
49% Great Britain 41% Ireland 4% Scandinavia
I don't quite understand that as by my count that equals just 90%. Of course there were some funny things happened when they introduced the metric system over here ..........
If you click on the 'Show 5 more regions' tab the results look like this:-
Asia - less than 1% (specifically Asia South) Europe - 90% (being 49% Great Britain and 41% Ireland as above plus 4% Scandinavia, 2% Europe East, less than 1% Europe West and less than 1% Iberian Peninsula) Pacific Islander - less than 1% (specifically Melanesia)
I guess that just about gives us the 100%!
The 'Genetic Communities' table shows:-
English in the South West Peninsula - connection very likely Munster Irish - connection possible Irish in Ulster East - connection possible
Under DNA matches it seems that I begin with 110 that are 4th cousins or closer!
Well, I was about to go get some sleep but perhaps I might spend a little time having a look at some of these so that perhaps I can do some planning for later tonight.
And then I will need to find out how I go about uploading all of this to Gedmatch and other useful sites.
Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 24, 2017 20:29:50 GMT -5
Hi Zib - yes, some of the Irish 'could' be Cornish but I suspect the figures presented may not be far off the mark.
On my father's side of course I have a direct male line back to Towednack and probably St Erth in the latter part of the 1500s. But my paternal grandmother was born in Australia to Jeremian John O'Neill (born Ireland) and Mary Elizabeth Woods. I am not sure where her parents came from but her mother was a Delaney which suggests more Irish. My paternal great-grandmother was Margaret Landrigan whose father John was also born in Ireland. Margaret's mother was born in Victoria to parents Timothy Bowes and Mary Toohey which again suggests at least one more Irish connection via her mother's family.
Interesting - I just decided to have a quick look at the Ancestry Public Trees and discovered an entry that says Timothy Bowes and Mary Toohey were married in Limerick in 1852! Of course Timothy Bowes' family may have originated in England but there is certainly more Irish there.
Basically my entire paternal line does seem to be Cornish and Irish.
On my mother's side I have Irish ancestry from my maternal grandfather John Singleton whilst my maternal grandmother was a Prentice which I currently have in Essex during the 1700s.
Yes, based on that I would think the 49% vs 41% is probably not far off the mark at all.
And it is interesting that many of those 110 initial matches seem to have singleton connections. One listed as 2nd cousin I already known (Helen Pfann) as we were in touch many years ago but the main one of interest at the moment is a Singleton listed as probable 3rd-4th cousin relationship. If that link turned out to be accurate then the common ancestor would almost certainly be back in Ireland which means that I may have a possible chance of finally identifying my 2xgt-grandfather!
Of course there is lots of work to do and lots to learn first.
I think I weigh in at 1/4 + Cornish and I am no longer blond. That was a childhood Swedish event! My hairdresser is stunned to see the dark hair filling in, but I know it matches my Cornish grandfather and his siblings.
30 % Great Britain; 27% Ireland; 26% Scandinavia; 9% Iberian Peninsula; 6% Europe West; <1% Italy/Greece; <1% European Jewish. My Genetic Community: Connection most likely is English in the South West Peninsula.
Having been born and bred of Cornish stock in Mousehole/Penzance and having been able to trace nearly all my lines back to the 17th century in Cornwall apart from about half a dozen Irish ancestors who married into the local community here in the 18th century and one known French Huguenot line on my mother's maternal side, I was most surprised at how high the Scandinavian percentage was in my DNA. Fascinating stuff!
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