Hello from another Aussie!

[hproszen]

Hello people,

I was looking at your site and particularly the Quicks from St Ives area. My great grandmother, Mary Hannah Shugg, came from St Ives so I have lots of ancestors from there. The Shuggs are not so hard to trace though. My real current problem is trying to work out the ancestry of Mary Hannah's great grandmother, Judith Quick.

I was getting lots of useful information about the Quicks from this site so I thought I should introduce myself. I don't think there is any definitive answer to the background of Judith Quick on this site yet though.
Well I'll just post this to see how I go!


cheers All! 

[zibetha]

Hello, So good to see you here! Your (DNA matched) cousin on the Reed side of the family, and if my test proves another of my theories, I may also be a Quick descendant.

Zibetha

[Cornish Terrier]

Welcome to the site.

Any discussion on the Quick family should be started with a post in the Quick Forum. However I will say here that although no baptism has been found for her I do believe it most likely that Judith Quick was the daughter of William Quick and Catherine Jackett who married at St Ives in 1741. Judith was possibly named for her maternal grandmother Judith Jackett.

I will try to answer any further questions on the Quick family in the relevant forum.

CT

[zibetha]

It is a surprise to me, but I think I am becoming a proponent for DNA testing. Helen and I are 7th cousins with a common ancestor, John Reed, of St Mawgan in Meneage. I have a whopper doodle of a DNA match with her aunt. For me, it is very emotional (and gratifying) to have the paper trail prove out in terms of my bloodline. Part of this is very easy-- we can both rule out our father's side of our families. It is the Cornish connection that prevails. Gedmatch kit A 129059. zjane


Zib

[zibetha]

Just do it--- join the fun and get it done. You won't regret it.

[gandolf]

I agree Zib - lots of fun finding genetic matches that prove out your research assumptions based on paper records (see my posts in response to Mike in the DNA Testing thread).

[gandolf]

For those interested, I have two kits on GEDMATCH:
My own kit: A047038
My sisters Kit: A036704

For the record Zib, you and I don't show as a match in GEDMatch at the default settings, though at lower levels there is a small match of 4.4 centimorgans on Chromosome 21. So somewhere we may have a far distant common ancestor. You don't show as a match to my sister even at that low level.

I also had a look at the "Match both kits, or 1 of 2 kits" comparison. While at the default level of 10cM we don't share any matches, at a lower level of 7cM we share a large number of low level matches (typically 7-8 generations to estimated common ancestor.

There was one match in that group that did catch my eye though since it is involved in a grouping I am trying to sort out from western Co. Clare.
This is kit A950227, for a Michael Bracken. Although your connection to him is at least two generations further (about 7 v. about 5) away than mine.

While I am still trying to confirm/fine tune his ancestry, what I know at this stage is that his ancestry is pretty much pure Irish - the majority of it being from the western half of Co. Clare, with a small infusion from his paternal great-grandfather from Offaly.

One of my big ongoing projects relates to a family with the surname of Sexton based around the parish of Kilmurry-Ibrickan in central western Co. Clare. Oral family history in some of the families of that name still in the area says that they are all related and share a common ancestor (supposedly in the 1600s - 17th century, though I believe 17th century should actually be read as 1700s, i.e. 18th century). Surviving records, scarce as they are for the periods prior to 1830 suggest there may be truth to the story. The Sexton name is pretty much unknown in the western half of Co. Clare prior to the 1850s - except in (or within a mile or so to the north of) the parish of Kilmurry-Ibrickan. The earliest surviving parish registers indicate around 15-20 families with the name, growing slowly during the 1800s, which is not inconsistent with a single male progenitor having children in the 1750-1780 period and the perhaps half dozen or so children (say 3-4 males) having children in the early 1800s.

The clincher is the DNA results. So far we have identified more than 35 people who test as related (with a Most Recent Common Ancestor - MRCA) at the level of around 4-6 generations back, and who all share in common a Sexton ancestor who originated in the Kilmurry-Ibrickan parish. The key point being that in many of these matches, although the two people who match both have a Sexton from Kilmurry-Ibrickan as an ancestor, the surviving paper trail runs out before we reach a common documented ancestor.

Of the 35 plus people who show as matches, most of the group match at least five to eight of the rest of the group, randomly spread across the greater group, though a couple who were born in the parish test as matches to the majority of the rest of the group (though possibly through multiple connections).

We currently have matches descended from every single known family having children baptised in the earliest surviving records. All of which indicates the strong likelihood of a single common ancestor.

Without knowing anything of your ancestry Zib, your match to Michael Bracken suggests a possible distant Irish connection somewhere.

[zibetha]

Hi, Gandolf,

Thanks for all the information. I do see the Bracken match. That is interesting and not expected. I have not extended any family branches back to Ireland as yet, but I do have a few ancestors that I am at a dead-end with on the papertrail, so you never know. It's a possibility. I am Cornish, Flemish, Swedish and apparently Spanish (Iberian.) I think "my" Irish results represent "Cornish" due to Ancestry's mapping, but I am open to being mistaken.

Zib

[zibetha]

There should be some miscellaneous English/British in there, too, but I think that morphed into the Western European "bucket"-- I am still working on defining it.

[spikeharwood]

My Gedmatch kit # is A251986 and my sister's T395186 (T denotes an FTDNA test). We are over 50% Cornish.
I manage several kits, one of which is A509827. He is 100% Irish heritage and has a 7.6cM match with Michael Bracken.
I have a 6.4 match with Michael but it is unlikely to be Irish. It is either Cornish, Scottish or false.

[gabithompson730]

hi and welcome nice to meet you

[robyndundas]

May 28, 2017 2:30:59 GMT -5 spikeharwood said:

My Gedmatch kit # is A251986 and my sister's T395186 (T denotes an FTDNA test). We are over 50% Cornish.
I manage several kits, one of which is A509827. He is 100% Irish heritage and has a 7.6cM match with Michael Bracken.
I have a 6.4 match with Michael but it is unlikely to be Irish. It is either Cornish, Scottish or false.