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Post by lighthouse on Sept 30, 2016 1:46:18 GMT -5
Hello all,
I am interested in the family and connections of Thomas James Davies (1905 - 1990) and his wife Elsie Ruth Prowse (1907 - 1983). Elsie Prowse was from Abbotskerwell, Devon, so I'm not following that up here, but Thomas' family mostly came from the Penwith area. He lived and worked as a lighthouse keeper. His father, Thomas Richard Davies (1875 - 1946) was a fisherman out of Plymouth in the 1920's, married Mary Martha Griffiths (1883 - after 1922) from Falmouth. We have a family group photo of the family with six children taken in 1914.
I have (I think) traced Thomas' ancestry back through the maternal and paternal lines to ca 1700 without making too many leaps of faith (!)
Would anyone out there like to compare notes?
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Post by taipan72. on Mar 26, 2017 6:59:05 GMT -5
Where are your "Rowe" family from??.
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Post by taipan72. on Jun 11, 2017 8:14:09 GMT -5
I have Rowe.
Taipan72
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Post by lighthouse on Aug 18, 2017 7:35:05 GMT -5
Hi Taipan72,
haven't checked in in a while! Here is our "Rowe" connection (from Perranuthnoe/Marazion) that I reckon works;)
Margaret Richards (bapt. 1725; Perranuthnoe) had Perran Richards (1741 - 1803) out of wedlock (two entries in opc seems to me to be a transcritpion error a year apart). She later married William Rowe (bapt 1717 - 1785) in 1748. Perran had three half siblings, William (1749 – 1772+), Hannah (1751 – 1771+), and Margaret (1754 – 1811). *
Perran Richards married FRances Barnes in May 1770 (Perranuthnoe). The opc has four births between 1772 and 1778 registered to Perran and Frances (in St. Hilary) but the children are registered with "Rowe" as their surname. As an adult Perran Richards/Rowe was living in Marazion and subsequent generations seem to have been more tied to Marazion than Perranuthnoe (except the time when the "Rowe" family was named on a removal order in 1789 and they returned for a while to Perranuthnoe ).
There is a bit a jiggery pokery going on with the Richards-Rowe surname BUT usage of the name Perran seems to be pretty unusual as a given name, even in Cornwall, so I think that Perran Richards used his adoptive father's surname for his own children when it suited him but married and died using his mother's maiden name: Richards.
Perran Richards/Rowe named one of his sons "Perran" (1776 - 1846); Perran Rowe married Mary Dunn on 3rd jun 1800. Another son was named John Rowe (bapt 1775 - 1852); John married Thomasin Symons in 1795. Both brothers John and Perran each named one of their children "Perran" - Perran Symons Rowe (bapt 1806) and Perran Dunn Rowe (bapt. 1805) respectively. The two baptisms took place in Marazion.
Perran Rowe and Mary Dunn baptized eleven children between 1800 and 1825. Amongst others, they had a daughter "Elizabeth" (1811 - 1868) who married one William Prisk (1812 - 1876). William Prisk is my husband's 3xG grandfather [TJ Davies b. 1905; TR Davies b. 1875; R Davies b 1852 m. Mary Anne Prisk b. 1854. Mary Ann Prisk was the youngest daughter of William Prisk and Elizabeth Rowe].
William Prisk's maternal grandmother seems to have been one "Mary Rowe" (1737 - 1783) married to George Guy (1735 - 1803) in St. Buryan on 24 Jun 1760. I haven't traced her lineage at all.
Hope this isn't too convoluted to decipher! How do your Rowe's tie in with this?
Look forward to hearing from you:)
*There was a Perran Rowe bapt. 14 Oct 1733 to Sedwell (base son)in Ludgvan and buried 16 Dec 1733.
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Post by taipan72. on Aug 20, 2017 4:13:42 GMT -5
I don't know if my mob tie in with yours??? But,
My 4x grandmother was A Maryann Rowe
Who married Henry Whear/Wher/Wheare daughter of Elizabeth Williams & Thomas floyd Rowe.-from Breage Cornwall.
Henry's son Thomas Henry Whear m Caroline Sparnon-Breage.
They came over to oz-where I am and their son,
Another Henry m
My gg grandmother,Illigitimate Sidonia Buzza b 1859st Hilary Cornwall ,to uk own Ann/Annie Buzza from St Hilary (was in Penzance workhouse!.
Sidonia came over on the Osterley!.
This is my mums mums side!.
Other names on Williams/George/Richards/Rowe/Sparnon/Buzza/viol/McRae/Anseline nee Morris/winders...Whear/e-Breage & gwinear/fenwick/wardrobe/spencer
& many more...
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Post by citroenlady on Aug 20, 2017 8:47:56 GMT -5
I don't know if my mob tie in with yours??? But, My 4x grandmother was A Maryann Rowe Who married Henry Whear/Wher/Wheare daughter of Elizabeth Williams & Thomas floyd Rowe.-from Breage Cornwall. Henry's son Thomas Henry Whear m Caroline Sparnon-Breage. They came over to oz-where I am and their son, Another Henry m My gg grandmother,Illigitimate Sidonia Buzza b 1859st Hilary Cornwall ,to uk own Ann/Annie Buzza from St Hilary (was in Penzance workhouse!. Sidonia came over on the Osterley!. This is my mums mums side!. Other names on Williams/George/Richards/Rowe/Sparnon/Buzza/viol/McRae/Anseline nee Morris/winders...Whear/e-Breage & gwinear/fenwick/wardrobe/spencer & many more... |
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Post by citroenlady on Aug 20, 2017 9:01:05 GMT -5
Butting in here, taipan, to say that I have tried to tie in lighthouse's Rowes with our family but -- as yet -- no luck. I don't think there is a connection, sadly.
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Post by citroenlady on Aug 20, 2017 9:04:08 GMT -5
Sorry about the duplication of posts here! I can't get into the html, otherwise I would correct it. If Admin or a Mod would be so kind .....  |
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Post by taipan72. on Aug 22, 2017 0:40:11 GMT -5
Butting in here, taipan, to say that I have tried to tie in lighthouse's Rowes with our family but -- as yet -- no luck. I don't think there is a connection, sadly. Okay |
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Post by zibetha on Aug 22, 2017 8:00:44 GMT -5
Hi, Taipan, Does your Whear/Rowe line go back to Thomas Sampson Rowe and Margaret Rowe Sampson (born 1763)  I am a Sampson family researcher. This is a line I am not yet able to connect to mine, but I suspect it does. Zib Correction with my apologies! I also have the a Thomas Sampson/Margaret Rowe among my "crowd." |
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Post by citroenlady on Aug 22, 2017 10:07:57 GMT -5
Hi, Taipan, Does your Whear/Rowe line go back to Thomas Sampson and Margaret Rowe (born 1763) I am a Sampson family researcher. This is a line I am not yet able to connect to mine, but I suspect it does. Zib Their son, Thomas Floyd Rowe, is taipan's 5th gt. grandfather, Zib! Thomas Floyd's parents were Thomas Sampson and Margaret Rowe. Margaret Rowe is my third cousin 8x removed. |
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Post by zibetha on Aug 22, 2017 10:45:17 GMT -5
Thanks, "CL"--- I approach this with the attitude that we probably are all related and connect people on my tree even if the link seems to be only by marriage. Then I let the search engines do their magic. When I was in college, I took a trip to Spain. It was in January and cold, but a fellow student and I took a walk on the beach at Malaga and watched the fishermen casting out and hauling in their nets manually. My research reminds me of this. The more I am able to extend my tree, the more "fish" I seem to haul in. Zib |
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Post by taipan72. on Aug 27, 2017 22:27:56 GMT -5
Hi, Taipan, Does your Whear/Rowe line go back to Thomas Sampson and Margaret Rowe (born 1763) I am a Sampson family researcher. This is a line I am not yet able to connect to mine, but I suspect it does. Zib Their son, Thomas Floyd Rowe, is taipan's 5th gt. grandfather, Zib! Thomas Floyd's parents were Thomas Sampson and Margaret Rowe. Margaret Rowe is my third cousin 8x removed. |
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Post by taipan72. on Aug 27, 2017 23:16:47 GMT -5
Hi, Taipan, Does your Whear/Rowe line go back to Thomas Sampson and Margaret Rowe (born 1763) I am a Sampson family researcher. This is a line I am not yet able to connect to mine, but I suspect it does. Zib Yep-👍 Sure do!... |
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Post by taipan72. on Aug 28, 2017 1:33:45 GMT -5
Yes indeed Zibetha.
Citroen lady answered for me,sorry I wasn't on.
I was adopted out so still learning about my biological family/families which, Rowe is just one of many names that are in my tree!.
Viol.George.Whear/e/Whear/Wher/, Sparnon, Buzza, floyd Rowe,Williams,Richards etc just to name a few...
Citroen lady is a distant cousin to me & has been helping me as she is more advanced & knowledgeable on the families etc them I am.
Just going through my DNA etc now, just got it .
Have private messaged you.
And included my email.
Regards
Taipan72
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I am a Sampson family researcher. This is a line I am not yet able to connect to mine, but I suspect it does.