Abednego Harvey Blanche Leah

[cheran]

I am trying to pin together 


Abednego Harvey baptised I believe 30 May 1717 Paul Cornwall ...... parents maybe James and Margaret

Marriage to Blanche Leah 3 April 1744.... Paul Cornwall....   no information for Blanche but I believe she may have been born abt 1728 and death possibly 1761

I have 2 daughters so far

• Blanche bapt 1 June 1746....Paul, Cornwall..... looks like a marriage for her to a Richard Hall
  
  Their daughter Tabitha Hall marries Nicholas Uren about 1809...

• daughter 2
  
  
  
  Joan (Jane) bapt 24 January 1747..... Paul Cornwall marries Nicholas Uren (Uerin)
  
  their children
  
  I have Blanche 1770, Jone 1773, Junifer 1775, Nicholas 1777 (above mention marr to Tabitha Hall), Joan 1779, Abedengo 1781-1846 (marries Grace Pascoe)
  
  
  
  • Blanch born 1770 baptised 26 December 1770 Sennen Cornwall marries James Matthews (born about 1768) 17 December 1792 St Buryan.....
    
    They have
  •  James ....1793, William ....1794, Elizabeth...1795, Jennifer.....1797, Abedengo....1800, Thomas.....abt 1806 but I can't find a Bapt..and then Blanch(e) baptised 31 March 1808 with widow mother Blanche so I am assuming James died before this date...
    
  
  
  • I am trying to find a POSSIBLE BAPT Thomas Matthews of abt 1806..... 
  • He marries Grace Bennetts (Bennatts) (her parents I think are Richard Bennetts and Margaret Mathew) 
  • Marriage date= 16 December 1828 in St Levan Cornwall ....
    
    
    
    they have 8 girls and 2 boys before they emigrate to South Australia on the Duchess of Northumberland... The Duchess of Northumberland left London 3o June 1847 via Plymouth....
    
    and they had six children on board with them I think all girls? I have them on the 1841 Census
    

  
  
  1841 Census
  
  
  HO107/141/9 Folio: 52 Page: 4
  
  Place: P...mennor
  
  Parish: St Buryan, Cornwall England
  
  Thomas MATTHEWS 35 Ag Lab
  
  Grace MATTHEWS 35
  
  Emily MATTHEWS 11
  
  Margaret MATTHEWS 8
  
  Thomasina MATTHEWS 6
  
  Elizabeth MATTHEWS 4
  
  Mary MATTHEWS 2
  
  Joanna MATTHEWS 1mths
  
  Blanch MATTHEWS 75 Independent
  
  Blanch MATTHEWS 27
  
  Looking to confirm that I have tracked the family correctly and especially any more possible info on James Matthews  (Mathews)

[spikeharwood]

Hi Cheran and welcome to the Forum. I'm thinking I've bumped into you previously, on RootsChat?
Much friendlier mob over here.
CT or other knowledgeable person will be along shortly to help with your query. Can't say I've seen any of your Matthews linking up with my families in SA.
Spike.

[Cornish Terrier]

Hi Cheran and Welcome to the site.

As far as I can see from a brief read of your notes everything is substantially correct. At least correct as far as I have it in my database. I have also been unable to find a baptism for Thomas and I was beginning to suspect he may have been either the son of James and Mary Matthews baptised in 1802 or son of William and Elizabeth Matthews baptised in 1806 - both at St Buryan.
It was not until I looked at the marriage register and noted that the witnesses to his marriage were James Matthews and Blanch Matthews that was satisfied that he was most probably the son of James and Blanch. As his age in 1841 would have been rounded down to the nearest five years Thomas was probably born sometime between 1801 and 1806 but there is nothing in the St Buryan register that looks like it might be a record of his baptism. It is possible he was not baptised for some reason but much more likely that the even was recorded on a scrap of paper which was lost before being transfered to the parish register. (** the one other place it 'might' be recorded is in the Bishops Transcripts but I don't have copies of those for any of the Parishes around St Buryan **)

James Matthews was basically an unknown for me until I read your note about the baptism of Blanch in 1808. At first glance I suspect an illegitimate child being that she was baptised 8 years after Abednego and given that no baptism could be found for Thomas but I was able to dismiss that possibility fairly quickly.
I searched for any burials for James Matthews between 1800 and 1808 and although there were about eight there was only one real possibility:-

James Matthews age 39 buried 31st December 1807 St Levan

We are lucky in this case as his age was recorded giving us a probably birth year of 1768. It also means that Blanch as a posthumous child being baptised exactly three months after James was buried.

Based on burial details the only possible baptism for James seems to be that at Paul 21st September 1768 but I have my doubts given he was the son of George and Elizabeth Matthews. James did name a daughter Elizabeth but he also had four sons yet none of them was named George!

CT