Oliver - Dunn Marriage Crowan 1766

[donne]

I have been looking at the marriage of Henry Oliver and Diana Dunn which took place on 9 Feb 1766 at Crowan. As far as I can see, the marriage was childless and I have speculated that Diana died in 1772 ( burial of Diana Oliver, St Erth 30 Sep 1772). Making another leap of faith, I thought it probable that Henry remarried Catherine Care in St Erth 24 Oct 1773 with several resulting offspring. However, Henry is recorded as a tinner on his marriage in 1766 but the Henry who married in 1773 seems to have become a miller in the transcriptions I have to hand, which is an unusual change of occupation in my experience. Is there any Oliver researcher who can shed light on my speculations?

[Cornish Terrier]

I have looked at images of the original records for the two marriages involved and firstly can confirm that the occupations recorded are 'tinner' and 'miller' respectively. It does perhaps seem a little odd but then there is always the possibility that Henry was merely employed to work in a mill at the time rather than being a 'qualified' miller himself.

In any case, a comparison of the signiatures on the two records show that it is most likely the same Henry Oliver in both cases.

I have no record of Dinah/Diana Dunn but would be interested in knowing where she belongs. Meatime I can identify Catherine care as being most likely the daughter of John Care and Elizabeth Quick who married at St Ives 1st February 1740. Catherine was baptised at St Ives 30th July 1749.

Henry and Catherine had seven children for whom I can find baptisms with the first six baptised at St Erth and the last, Oliver, at St Ives. Catherine Oliver (nee Care) was buried at St Ives 18th April 1813 age 58 'of Phillack'.
I believe Henry is mostly likely the Henry Oliver of Phillack age 73 buried at St Erth 18th April 1813.

The link with Phillack suggests that Henry would probably have been the son of Henry Oliver and Anna (nee Bryant) baptised at Phillack in 1744 however his age at burial equates to a birth around 1740/1 thus suggesting he was the Henry baptised to Henry and Grace (nee Provis) baptised at Breage in 1741.

Hope that is of some help.

CT

[donne]

Thanks for your comments, CT. I have Diana Dunn (bap. 1 Feb 1735/36) as one of the offspring a John DUN and Elizabeth (no marriage found) who baptised about 7 children between 1732 and 1746 at Crowan. As you know, the early Crowan registers are in a poor state and most of these baptisms I found with the help of the BAWDEN transcript (only available at the CRO I think). I think John DUN was one of the Kerthen Wood DUNNs who often baptised children in Crowan but seemed to get buried in St. Erth because it was nearer. I have found Diana's birth recorded as a transcript within the FindMyPast database but here she is referred to as Diana DUM!

[Cornish Terrier]

Thanks Roger - the actual date is illegible in the Crowan register but the first baptism for February 1735 is definitely a daughter to John Dunn. The name begins with 'D' and the rest is almost illegible but it could well be 'Diana'. (I have it as Image 044 from the FamilySearch collection with Image 001 being a photo of the cover of the register.)

CT

[donne]

I've had a look at image 44 of 'Baptisms, marriages, burials, 1691-1742' for Crowan. I don't know where BAWDEN got the date of 1st Feb, maybe it was a guess but generally he was meticulous and where possible tried to correlate register entries with BTs. By the way, I've also noted a further possible liaison of Henry Oliver resulting in Joan OLIVER bap 30 Jan 1771, 'Base child of Henry Oliver and Joan Pascoe' though the child did not survive long, with a burial recorded 18 Apr 1772.

[Cornish Terrier]

AHA! - He got it from the BTs with the entry, containing an error, reading as follows:-

1735
Feb: the 1st | Diana the son of John Dunn baptised

CT

[donne]

Thanks, CT - I will include that in my source reference. In this case the error you note is self-evident, but in carrying our the cross-referencing, Bawden highlights a small but significant number of discrepancies between BTs and PRs reminding us that you can't always believe what you read, even in original source documents!

[Cornish Terrier]

Most definitely - and as has also been documented on this forum in the past we have the same issues with 'Official Documents' such as Birth, Death and Marriage certificates.

And I should also add a reminder here that inscriptions on headstones are not immune from error either!

CT