Even so, lack of proof confirming an event occurred does not mean the opposite - that the event did not occur.
Perhaps Richard Eddy of Ludgvan did not acknowledge the child as his, or even if he did accept the child, as an illegitimate child he might not have wished to make formal provision for him (even if only a small gift of money) in the the will? So many potential interpretations.
It might help if I had ever been able to find anything concrete on Joan Richards. Although there is an outside chance that she was married/widowed at the time of the illegitimate birth, I have tended to concentrate on the assumption that she was unmarried. And in the twenty years after 1717 there is only one vaguely possible marriage (to Tristram Davy at Madron in 1734). And no clear evidence that I can find of a burial either, again a vaguely possible burial at Madron in 1729 (assuming no marriage in the intervening period).
So while I think the data (will witnesses, co-leases, etc) still leaves the Eddy family (Daniel Eddy and wife Catherine Gatrell and son David Eddy) as connected around the edges of the Daniel family of Zennor, my own connection to that corner of the Eddys will for the moment have to remain more tentative, with Richard Eddy of Ludgvan identified as the likely candidate, but no firm proof to confirm.
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Daniel/Eddy connection - that also is uncertain but perhaps further work on both families might dig out some more clues. The link may be familial or it may simply be connected to a lease.
While I have no idea at this time whether there is a familial connection between the Daniel and Eddy families prior to the late 1600's, there is definitely crossover between the descendants of Mark Daniel/Elizabeth Holla and David Eddy/Catherine Gartrell - not only through marriage, but also as co-leasees and will witnesses.
Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 23, 2015 18:42:11 GMT -5
there is definitely crossover between the descendants of Mark Daniel/Elizabeth Holla and David Eddy/Catherine Gartrell
That is probably not surprising given the abundance of marriages where both parties were closely related. But I have to say that I am far from convinced with that marriage involving a Danyell and Elizabeth Holla. I have a couple of problems with that particular entry:-
1. Although Phillimore shows the surname as 'Danyell' the register is very difficult to read and I am not convinced that the surname is actually Danyell. 2. I am far from convinced that the forename of the groom might be Mark. Again the condition of the register causes difficulties but what I can see of the end of the forename does not resemble a 'k' or 'ke' to me.
But even if the name is Mark Danyell I need to point out the possibility that it may be the marriage of a widower! Some sections of the early Zennor register are at least partially legible, keeping in mind that the above marriage was dated 14th September 1642 (possibly 1643) then the following gives cause for more thought:-
Margery daughter of Mark Daniell baptised 1st March 1628 Richard son of Mark Daniell baptised 15th February 1631
There is the possibility there may have been two Mark Daniels around that time but from what I have found so far I have my doubts. Thus the possibility of a second marriage.
Post by Cornish Terrier on Sept 9, 2015 7:10:07 GMT -5
A brief update on my progress on the Daniel family - In the last couple of weeks or so I have been working my way through the PRs of the West Penwith parishes trying to piece together the various Daniel families. By doing this I hope to be able to identify those who probably came from Zennor/Morvah which should then enable me to identify likely family groups. That then should hopefully enable me to form a reasonable timeline of the family back to Davy Daniell who appears to have been the earliest of the family at Zennor.
I have just started on St Ives where the earliest Daniel appears to have been Richard who baptised several children at St Ives from 1712. I believe he is probably the Richard Daniel baptised to William at Zennor in 1685.
CT, your doggedness and tenacity still manage to amaze me!
My research on this corner of the family on temporary hold till the end of the month as currently in England on the trip I mentioned to you a few weeks ago. So I look forward to hearing how your work progresses.
Took your advice and decided not to attempt Cornwall this trip, and have left it to another trip when I can dedicate a longer time there. Instead have added some other research Surrey on another part of the family to fill the gap. Probably works out better that way after all.
Post by Cornish Terrier on Sept 12, 2015 6:18:36 GMT -5
Took your advice and decided not to attempt Cornwall this trip, and have left it to another trip when I can dedicate a longer time there.
It is a shame to miss Cornwall entirely but you are quite right in making the best possible use of the time available on this trip. I hope you will be able to make another trip and get to spend some quality time in Cornwall.
Still working on St Ives but I have enough so far to suggest that all Daniels at least until the early part of the 19th Century originate in Zennor. APatience Daniell widow was buried at St Ives in 1729 and tis is undoubtedly the wife of William Daniell of the 1673 Zennor marriage who was identified in the BTs as Patience Oates.
All the early children at St Ives were baptised to William Daniel and wife Mary or Richard Daniel and wife Elizabeth. Unfortunately I have not been able to find marriages for these couples but the timeline suggests William and Richard were the sons of William Daniell baptised at Zennor in 1681 and 1685. William and Mary baptised children at Zennor prior to the move to St Ives and all subsequent Daniels at St Ives at least into the 1820s can be traced back to these two couples.