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Post by allan1962 on May 15, 2015 11:57:10 GMT -5
Thomas Casley residence Bojewyan, St Just, was buried on 05 Oct 1830 aged 33.
He married Ann Trembath on 23 Nov 1822. Groom Father Name is not given. Witnesses were John Tregear & Hugh Trembath.
Possible baptisms & parents in St Just 1797-1800 are:- 08 Mar 1797 Richard & Margaret 09 Apr 1797 George & Mary 19 Sep 1799 John & Martha
Is there a way to ascertain the correct parents?
Thank you in advance for any response.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 15, 2015 16:48:20 GMT -5
Well I can eliminate one of them for you:- Thomas son of Richard Casley was buried 30th August 1810 at St Just Although no age is recorded I think there is little doubt about the identity as another Thomas was baptized to Richard and Margaret 20th February 1814. I think it was this Thomas who married Frances Gendall at Madron in 1834. The next thing we can look at is the children of Thomas and Anne (Trembath) Casley and by my reckoning they had five daughters - Elizabeth, Mary Ann, Jane, Grace Trembath and Ann. Now I have Ann Trembath as the daughter of Hugh Trembath and Anne Rowe who also had a daughter named Grace so the last two children I would suggest come from the Trembath family. That then leaves Elizabeth, Mary Ann and Jane which also can all be found as Trembath siblings. The key point I think is that none of the daughters were named Martha which, along with being baptized in 1799, would tend to suggest Thomas was not the son of John and Martha. That of course, by process of elimination, means that he is most likely the son of George and Mary. There is one possible catch however - the son of George and Mary was baptized as 'Thomas Williams Casley'. CT
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Post by allan1962 on May 16, 2015 8:17:00 GMT -5
I have Thomas Casley son of Richard & Margaret Warren buried 30 Aug 1810 & should have come to the same conclusion . No residence is given in the Parish Register. The PR states son or daughter for some burials but not others. Perhaps the relationship was given for youngsters only, which would support the case. I have this Thomas Casley as being the son of Richard and Mary, not Margaret. The name of the mother in the PR appears to be Mary. Could curate Nicholas Tresedder have repeated Mary from the previous baptism in the PR? I have twelve children for Richard Casley and Margaret Warren starting from Margaret 1789 to William 1806. Perhaps they decided to have another child, ie Thomas 1914, much later & only after Thomas 1797-1810 had died. I have the five daughters but not Ann Trembath's parents. Hugh Trembath is a witness to Thomas & Ann's marriage. Your logic re family names is appreciated. I have two Thomas Williams Casley's. I can't find a baptism for the first one (probably born in 1795 after Mary in 1793) but he was buried on 25 Sep 1795. The PR states Thomas Williams son of George Casley. The second Thomas Williams was baptised on 09 Apr 1797. The baptism transcription in Cornwall OPC omits "Williams" but it is definitely in the PR. His marriage to Jane Oats on 14 Apr 1827 & his Probate in 1864 both include "Williams". The burial is not shown in the PR but the Cornwall OPC transcription omits "Williams". Thank you CT for your advice. It is much appreciated.
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Post by allan1962 on May 17, 2015 14:42:16 GMT -5
Probate for the second Thomas Williams Casley states that he died on 14 Apr 1864 & was proved at Bodmin by the oath of Jane Casley of St Just in Penwith widow of the relict.
This shows that he is not the Thomas Casley who was buried on 05 Oct 1830 aged 33.
It would seem that none of the three possible baptisms & parents suggested is the "correct" one.
Back to the drawing board!
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