Margery CARGEEG

[Tonkin]

Margery CARGEEG married Richard ROWE in Gulval in 1833.
If I'm on the right track they had seven children.

1. Mary bapt. 1833 Gulval.
2. Grace bapt. 1835 Gulval.
3. John bapt. 1837 Gulval.
4. Delia bapt. 1839 gulval.
5. Richard bapt. 1841 Gulval.
6. Alexander bapt. 1844 Gulval.
7. William bapt. 1846 Gulval.

I'm now trying to work out Margery's birth and death and this is what I have come up with, but nothing confirmed.

Birth.
Margery CARGEEGE. (Note spelling)
Bapt. 22 October 1809 Penzance.
Father: John.

Death.
Margery ROWE.
Buried: 23 December 1833 Gulval.
Age: 74 years.

How does this birth and death look to you CT?

Roy ... from Down Under.

[Tonkin]

Sorry CT, forgot to mention Margery was named as Marjery in the OPC marriages, but named as Margery in all the other events.

[Cornish Terrier]

Roy - I think the baptism is the right one except for the fact Margery was baptized at MADRON not Penzance. I have not done a thorough check but she may have been the daughter of John Cargeege and his second wife Margery Williams who married at St Just 5th Novemberl 1804. John had been previously married to Charity Mann 17th April 1802 at Madron.

The burial is another problem:-

Death.
Margery ROWE.
Buried: 23 December 1833 Gulval.
Age: 74 years.

Given she appeared in at least the 1851 Census she cannot have died in 1833. I suspect you mean 1883?

If you check the 1881 Census you will find Marjory at Paul Bridge, Gulval with her daughter Grace Richards and family. Grace married William Henry Rowe at Gulval 4th November 1861. So I think a burial at Gulval 23rd December 1883 is probably her.

CT

[Tonkin]

Thanks CT.

My error. Margery died 1883 and not 1833. Must have been looking at the year of marriage.
I'm sure Margery was baptised in Penzance so will have another look at the OPC database.

[Tonkin]

CT.

Had another look at the OPC Database and it gives Margery's place of baptised as Penzance in 1809.
I'm confused.

[Tonkin]

CT.

The OPC Database may have made an error with Margery's place of baptism and I'm thinking it should have been Madron with Penzance.

[Cornish Terrier]

I'm sure Margery was baptised in Penzance so will have another look at the OPC database.

Roy I can verify that the place of baptism was definitely MADRON.

The Madron PR is very difficult because the vicars/clerks did not always make it perfectly clear whether events were at Madron or Penzance. Penzance had become a Parish of its own around 1788 but all events until 1813 were still all recorded in the Madron register. From 1788 to 1812 events for Penzance were also duplicated in a separate register for Penzance.
The only way of working out in the Madron register where events took place is often to very carefully look for the word Madron or Penzance between entries. The other way the Parishes were separated in the Madron register was by the use of a Parentheses to group the events for Penzance.

But as I said, I can verify Madron because I have looked at the original image for the register.

CT

PS - the transcriptions for Madron got all mixed up with the transcriber noting events at Madron that actually occurred at Penzance and vice versa so you need to try and check the images.

[Tonkin]

Thanks for the above CT.
Margery's birth, death and marriage details are looking good for now.

[Cornish Terrier]

Roy - just a couple more variations for you - KERKEEK(e), KARKEEK(e).

BTW - Penzance was originally just a 'town' within Madron Parish. It became a Parish in its own right during the latter part of the 1780s.

CT

[Tonkin]

Thanks CT.

I picked up the spelling variations. They like to make it hard.
Also noticed the OPC has the marriage of John CARGEEGE to Margery WILLIAMS in 1804 recorded twice. One does not give his status and the other one gave his status as bachelor.

Such is life.

[Cornish Terrier]

Roy - if you look closely you may find that one transcription is from Phillimore and the other from the Parish Register. In some instances you may end up with three records of the marriage with the third coming from the Bishops Transcripts.
Similar situation for some baptisms such as Zennor and Towednack (amongst others) which have Hoblyn (or other) transcriptions as well as PRs available. You just need to check each entry to make sure you get the correct information.

CT