I have a death for Joseph Glasson, aged 70, at Beechworth in Victoria in 1904. I have some theories about this man but before I start to get cocky I was wondering if you had access to a shipping record that would match Joseph coming to Victoria.
Post by Cornish Terrier on Apr 25, 2014 19:54:22 GMT -5
Lannanta - old Joseph appears to have been a loner. However I think I have found his record in the PRO Victoria Passenger Lists.
Joseph Glasson age 49 arrived February 1882 aboard 'Potosi'
There are 504 records for that voyage so it would be a little difficult to determine from the index whether or not he had any companions. I am also not sure whether that number includes crew or if there are duplicated records but I do know that some lists have passengers recorded twice on different sections of the manifest.
My Glasson database is far from being up to date but I have just one candidate - 1832 Gwinear son of Thomas Glasson and Ann Vivian.
He died in 1885 and had been the husband of Grace Andrewartha.
The man I am looking at was the son of Richard GLASSON and Mary THOMAS - he was born around 1830 in Manaccan - found in the 1881 census but not after that. The reason I am looking at him is because his brother Henry GLASSON and his wife Sarah TIMMINS and family were all in Victoria - particularly Ballarat. The reason I am wondering is because there is so little information on Joseph's death entry that you would wonder why it was not provided by this family if the connection is correct.
Actually, on reflection, all of Joseph's family were in Victoria. His father died there in 1890, brothers Charles, William and Henry and families were there and his only unaccounted brother John could easily be one of the Johns in Victoria in 1903. No brainer I guess.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Apr 26, 2014 5:10:05 GMT -5
Beechworth is quite some distance from Ballarat and in fact is around 370km to 390km depending which way you go. That makes it around 230 miles which was probably more like a thousand in those days so when he died it would not be unusual that people in Beechworth might have known little about him but for his name and approximate age.
For the record, and in case you don't already have the information, the following baptisms can be found in the Manaccan Parish Register:-
Joseph son of Richard and Mary Glasson of Tregithen, farmer, baptised 25th February 1830 William son of Richard and Mary Glasson of Tregithen, farmer, baptised 25th February 1830 John son of Richard and Mary Glasson of Tregithen, farmer, baptised 10th March 1830
his only unaccounted brother John could easily be one of the Johns in Victoria in 1903.
Not unless the spelling of the surname has been botched again! And in any case there were two John Glasson deaths recorded in 1903 and only two in the Edwardian period:-
1904 Ballarat East - John Glasson age 54 - parents John Glasson and Martha Roach 1908 Maryborough - John Glasson age 50 - parents unknown
Here are death entries from the Victorian Indexes that appear to be a match for this family:-
1890 Ballarat East - Richard Glasson age 90 - parents Richard Glasson and Elizabeth (unknown) (Reg. No. 5580) 1893 Morrisons - Chas Glasson age 74 - parents Richard Glasson and Mary Thomas (Reg. No. 15457) 1901 Ballarat East - Wm Glasson age 69 - parents Richard Glasson and Mary Thomas (Reg. No. 4465) 1904 Beechworth H - Joseph Glasson age 70 - parents unknown (Reg. No. 423) 1917 Ballarat - Henry Glasson age 83 - parents Richard Glasson and Mary Thomas (Reg. No. 199)
So when Richard Glasson, husband of Mary Thomas, a butcher, died on 8th May 1890, it was stated that there were four sons still alive, Charles aged 69 years, Joseph aged 60 years, William 57 and Henry 55 years.
It also stated that son John is deceased. And I suggest that he was the 16th July 1884 death in New South Wales at the Prince Alfred Hospital in Camperdown. He died intestate and an 1884 public notice in a newspaper has a legal notice calling for claims on his property and the legal advice acting on behalf of the father, Richard Glasson of East Ballarat.
It is eminently possible that this John Glasson was also the passenger arriving at Sydney from Auckland, NZ in January 1884 and if so then a whole new mysyery opens itself up.
Post by Cornish Terrier on Jun 8, 2021 7:28:44 GMT -5
Well that's just messed up another entry in my database!!
I had this John Glasson as the 7th April 1879 Death at Wallaroo in South Australia age 50. With this new NSW information it seems to leave that SA death with no Richard Glasson to attribute it to! But I am guessing you might be able to solve that problem for me?
CT I seem to remember a note in the SA BDM & Cemetery database for 1879 that he was an Aborigine but I would need to look again to confirm that. I certainly do not have a death transcription for him. I also do not think he has a headstone there.
New South Wales Government Gazette (Sydney, NSW : 1832 - 1900) Fri 1 Aug 1884 [Issue No.386] Page 5255 ECCLESIASTICAL JURISDICTION. In the goods, chattels, credits, and effects of John Glasson, late of Sydney, in the Colony of New South Wales, miner, deceased, intestate. NOTICE is hereby given, that after the expiration of fourteen days from the publication hereof in the New South Wales Government Gazette, application will be made to this Honorable Court, in its Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction, that letters of administration of all and singular the goods, chattels, credits, and effects of the abovenamed deceased, who died on the 16th day of July, a.d. 1884, may be granted to Arthur Joseph Brady, of 87, Elizabeth-street, Sydney, in the Colony aforesaid, solicitor, the duly constituted attorney of Richard Glasson, of Ballarat, in the Colony of Victoria, butcher, the father and next of kin of the said deceased. - Dated this 3lst day of July. A.D. 1884.