Bringing this back to the early part of my thread, I don't think I ever posted that I have a 4th cousin match to another descendent of Joseph/Josiah. He is from marriage no.1 and I am from marriage no. 2, so that link has to be on the Sampson side. Today I was notified of another match to both of us who was also of the second marriage.
Cousin no. 1 and I can only be Sampson relatives based on our research. Cousin 2 and I share Sampson and Mitchell links.. But since 2 is also related to 1, our common link amongst the three of us is Sampson.
Spike's mention of triangulation is a valuable one. Easier to understand on a small basis.
I hope you do try Gedmatch; I'll be looking for you! On Ancestry, where I tested, I've been able to work out a couple of 10th to 12th cousin matches that showed up as 5th to 8th in probability. You never know.
So far, I have found us to be related two ways: 7th cousins via the Tremayne link (my maternal grandmother's side of the family) and 9th via the Harry/Harris family (my maternal grandfather's side.)
A brief update. Done the Gedmatch thing. Kit M912666. Be interested if there is a connection. From my understanding, a genealogical connection may not show a DNA connection after 5th cousins or so!
Anyway, I matched another person whose grandmother was a foundling in a London orphanage in the late 19th century. With a little bit of work she has been able to establish the connection.
I won't hijack this thread any further. Happy to start another thread or take it to PMs for the future.
More DNA news -- I now have a strong match with a descendent of my great-great-grandmother Bessie Sampson's brother, Charles. How fun! Charles left the mining industry and moved to the East coast of the USA where he worked as a fisherman.
Possible marriage for Francis in Redruth 1872 to either Ellen Bellman or Rosina Perry.
My DNA test results just set me straight re: what happened to Francis Sampson. He wasn't the one who travelled on the "Caroline" as he died late December of 1877 (which appeared in the 1878 Death Index.) He was in Australia by 1875, if not earlier.
Francis married Ellen Bellman. They had four daughters that I know of: Annie Jane 1874, Elizabeth Ellen 1875, Mary 1876-77 and Amelia 1878. Mary died young, but the others married and had children. I am not sure about Annie Jane, but the last three were born in Australia. The youngest, Amelia, named for my 3x great-grandmother married John Stewart Turner in Newtown, New South Wales in 1905. Today, I discovered a DNA match with a granddaughter of theirs.
Francis was born in 1851 but not baptized until 1855 -- so an age of 21-22 at time of death seemed possible. With today's new family information, it became obvious that he was older than the Caroline passenger, plus I realized the discrepancy re: the year he died.
Since starting this thread, I received a copy of a family history researched and written in Cornwall by a descendant from Josiah Sampson's first marriage to Jane Luke. That provided dates of birth for the first 11 of Josiah & Amelia's children that are tying in with the information now available in the GRO database. This has helped establish that Francis' older sister, "Annie" was indeed the same person as Mary Ann(a) whose birth was registered in the 2nd quarter of 1848. I also found her name listed on her son Albert Uren's Michigan death certificate as "Maryann."
I am bringing this up due to recent posts and things I am learning about DNA tests. All I knew in school was what the letters stood for and that two blue-eyed parents could not have a brown-eyed child. We drew tic tac toe styled charts. I have come to know that this lack of knowledge (which I share) is a big factor re: people not responding to my messages or queries on DNA sites. I do not anticipate any surprises as to where my family lines originated.
I am finding my DNA matches useful in confirming my family tree research. I long wondered why Francis Sampson "wandered off" to Australia when the bulk of his family moved to the USA. While corresponding with cousins tonight, it struck my memory that two of Francis' uncles--- John Trannick/Trannack Williams and his brother, Francis, immigrated to Australia and wed Thomasine Hollow. I have not looked into Francis Sampson's wife's family yet as regards moving to Australia. I have matches with JTW's descendants.
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Raising the Sampsons again re: the discussion of age discrepancies in Spike's extended US Hocking family. I was recently invited to participate in a project identifying abandoned family photographs. That led me to find that Josiah and Amelia's daughter Amelia Jane was married twice. When her parents moved to the US, she was listed on the passenger list as 10 years older than her actual age--- but as the ages were in descending order, I suspected she was 16 rather than 26, and that has turned out to be true.