Quick and Curnow

[Cornish Terrier]

Sue - thankyou for that input, I need to invesitigate David Eddy a little further to see if he can help finally put the question mark over William Curnow to rest.

Lannanta - here is what I have for Amelia Jane Curnow.

Amelia Jane daughter of Sampson Curnow and Hannah (nee Rapson)of Higher Bussow Hill baptised 16th April 1854 Towednack (born 8th February 1854).
Sampson Curnow was baptised at Towednack 25th November 1821 (born 25th May) son of William and Mary Curnow of Amalveor.
This now falls into the realms of 'work in progress' with the identity of William Curnow not yet fully determined by Sue and myself.

William Curnow of Towednack married Mary Curnow at Zennor 16th April 1808

Mary Curnow was baptised at Zennor 19th February 1786 daughter of William Curnow and Alice Richards so she was an aunt to the Robert Curnow of your earlier post.

William Curnow (her husband) was one of several of that name born around 1785/6 at Towednack. Sue and I spent a good deal of time on this last year but no firm conclusions had been reached at our last discussion.

Perhaps Sue has some more ideas now given I think she has been beavering away in the background on both the William Curnow and the Thomas Curnow problem.

Either way - I think William's ancestry will find him linked but it is just a matter of exactly where that link is found.

Will try and review old notes this afternoon to see if anything new might come to light.

CT

[Cornish Terrier]

Sue - can you explain the following please?

William & Alice have 8 identified children, their 3rd was named David. However, he was named David Eddy Curnow

The Gulval PR shows that 'David son of William and Allis Curnow was baptised 13th July 1800

How do you arrive at the conclusion that the child was 'David Eddy Curnow'?

CT

[Cornish Terrier]

A delicate operation this! I need to try and find solutions to a couple of questions (raised above) without turning the thread into a long discussion about Eddy/Stevens/Curnow etc.!

So - I have been able to satisfy myself that the signiature of the David Eddy who witnessed the marriage of William Curnow to Alice Stevens at Gulval in 1793 is the same as that of the David Eddy of Gulval who married Elizabeth Stevens at Lelant in 1798.

That provided a logical link via Alice and Elizabeth Stevens - however I can find no family with both an Alice and an Elizabeth born near the right time to have been involved in the above marriages.
But once again we have the problem of ages being, in all probability, misleading. Alice was recorded as age 84 in March 1852 so should have been born about 1768 yet it appears she was actually born in 1772. And Elizabeth was age 71 when buried in September 1836 so should have been born about 1765. As she is not a sister to Alice I am not quite sure, as yet, where she belongs but the witness at her marriage was a John Stevens.

With the Stevens girls 'seemingly' not the connection to David Eddy I turned in another direction. This David Eddy is one of a couple that I have previously not been able to identify. In 1851 he was age 84 and when buried in 1853 his age was 86 so his birth should have been about 1767.
The only David Eddy close to that was baptised in 1765 at St Just but he also married at St Just.

The one clue with David Eddy of Gulval is that he named a daughter Christiana Stevens Eddy which at first I thought might help link Alice and Elizabeth.
But I now think that this was for David's mother which then makes him the David Eddy baptised at Zennor in 1772 to David Eddy and Catherine Stevens. That, of course, means that his age in 1851 and 1853 was overstated by about 5 years!

I now need to see if the marriage of David Eddy and Catherine Stevens might offer some clues that might finally correctly identify William Curnow.

CT

[sue]

Well now, there's a thing! I now have serious bruising on my head!

I took William & Alice's son David's 1800 baptism at Gulval from OPC in 2011, when FS did not have the images online. OPC says David Eddy Curnow.

As of today I now have the 1800 PR image from FS, no. 21 of Gulval Baptisms & Burials 1701 - 1823, and see for myself that the entry is a clear simple David.

Huh??? Where did the transcriber get David Eddy Curnow from? Could it be the use of predictive text from 3 lines above in the PR, where a David Eddy Stephens is baptized to Andrew & Elizabeth?

Without the "Eddy", personally I would now withdraw my qualms about the identity of William Curnow the spouse of Alice Stevens as it is that that has been my stumbling block all this time - which presents me with a great deal of typing to do in entering William & Alice's tribe into my 2nd set of records..... but only once the damage to my head has healed... ;D

On the other Curnow query here, who is the William Curnow of c1786 vintage who married Mary Curnow at Zennor 1808? That being a bit of a Holy Grail, trust me, I would not have been able to keep any progress in identifying him to myself! As CT may remember, I have a set of playing cards I've made for the baptisms, marriages, deaths & children of William Curnows of this era......

Sue

[Cornish Terrier]

Ah - the dreaded MSExcel intuitive pre-fill strikes again!

Okay then - I think I can safely leave my records as they are with said William already recorded as son of David and Elizabeth.

Second William (c.1786) is as I thought - still in limbo. Guess some more Panadol needs to be sourced in preparation for another attempt at identifying he and his 1785/6 cohorts!

CT

[foxgrapes]

Hi Again,

Just wondering if you are any closer to working out the parentage of the William Curnow who married Mary Curnow 16th April 1808. I'm also having problems confirming all their children. I have 5, Hannah, William, Sampson, Jennifer & Priscilla, (1841 census) but sure there are more. As you said in another post, most trees out there are so wrong, with names popping up all over the place.
Thanks
Yvonne

[sue]

Hi Foxgrapes

Persons who are together in a household on the day of a census is a simple starting point, but there is in cases like this a long and wide-ranging forensic study required to correctly piece families together:
as I said in reply to your query in the thread “John Curnow Baptised 1810 Ludgvan”, these Curnows are all part of one large jigsaw, and it takes some years to work out which ones belong where.

The joy of family history research is in the journey I believe, not in the amassing of names on a tree.

The William Curnows appearing in censuses indicating a birth say 1780-1790 are not solvable unless you gather together all the evidence from the PRs for Towednack, Zennor, surrounding parishes etc., including locations at the time of events as well as names of parents, siblings, witnesses and so on, obtain copies of wills from the Cornwall Records Office, find service records and so on. In fact, you will want to cast the net a great deal wider, which brings me back to the Very Large Jigsaw concept!

Some of the relevant PRs are available on OPC and/or FamilySearch, some of the original digitised PR pages are available on FamilySearch; others are purchasable from the Cornwall Family History
Society; others are only viewable at present on microfiche.

Wills can be obtained for something like £1.20p per sheet from the Cornwall Records Office, who have an online catalogue.
crocat.cornwall.gov.uk/dserve/DServe.exe?dsqApp=Archive&dsqCmd=Index.tcl

Hope that helps.

Sue

Sue

[Cornish Terrier]

Hi Yvonne - I have been working on all these Curnows since about August last year and to date I still have no answer to your question. This William is one of about three possibilities and both Sue and myself have been trying for a long time to sort them out.
As Sue has mentioned it is a long process and there are a lot of things to consider and a lot of resources to search and we really need to find out everything we can about each of the possible candidates before we might have any chance of correctly identifying what happened to them.

CT

[foxgrapes]

Thank you again for your input.