H. Stuart Curnow

[Isambard]

Digging into Susie Josephine Quick's birthdays book once more, (the actual digging done by my Vancouver cousin who holds Grandma Susie's little book) we find the following Curnows listed:

H. Stuart Curnow June 30 1919
Marion Curnow Aug 20 1908
M. H. Curnow Oct 13 1874
Kathleen Curnow Dec 29 1915
Janie Curnow Aug 3 1889.

H. Stuart C appears to be Horace S. Curnow b. Sept 1919 Devonport vol 5b pg 438, and is presumably the Horace Stuart Curnow death 14 April 2000 Plymouth RAF Sgt (retired).

Marion and Kathleen appear to be daughters of M. H. (Malachi Hingston) Curnow and Mary Glasson Mitchell.

The 1891 census lists a Janie Curnow age 4, mother Jane Curnow age 33 living on own means, Ludgvan.

I'm still trying to sort out Horace and Janie's parentage in the plethora of Curnows.

[Cornish Terrier]

Isambard - Janie remains the only mystery at the moment but I don't expect too much trouble identifying her.

The children of Malachi Hingston and Mary Glasson (Mitchell) Curnow are:-

Marion Hingston born St Ives 20th August 1908
Kathleen E born Penzance R.D. 1916
Horace S born Devonport R.D. 1919

In FreeBMD you will find that from 1912 the maiden name of the mother is recorded in the Index. In the case of both Kathleen and Horace the mother's name is recorded as Mitchell.
For details of Marion visit this (OPC) link:-

www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=baptisms_nc&id=83717

I will do some checking on Janie and post the results here.

CT

[sue]

Janie Curnow I think you'll find is child of Richard Henry Curnow & Jane Roberts who married 13 Mar 1886 Ludgvan. Richard Henry Curnow's parents were Thomas Curnow & Margaret Hollow, and so on.

I believe her birth date was 3 August 1886, rather than 1889, if you want to re-check your wonderful document?

In 1911 this Janie Curnow is in the family business of innkeeping, Church Street Helston. Looks like it's young Janie who completed the census return for the family.

In 1901 Janie was a teacher, living with her widowed mother Jane & sister Minnie. Seems like Richard had a miraculous recovery at some point! Presumably he was out of contact abroad for some years....... (Possibly the married boarder in Montana 1900, born “Jan 1857”. )

Sue

[Cornish Terrier]

Janie Curnow Aug 3 1889

The 1891 census lists a Janie Curnow age 4, mother Jane Curnow age 33 living on own means, Ludgvan.

The very first problem I see with this one is that the birthdate does not match the age in the Census record!
To be age 4 in 1891 I would suggest Janie was born in 1886 or possibly 1887 which is at least two years prior to the date recorded in Susie's Birthday Book.

I checked through the Census and in 1901 you will find Jane and daughter Janie, now age 14, still living at Ludgvan. Also present is another daughter - Minnie age 6.

In 1911 I finally found the father at home!

1911 Census
4 Church Street, Helston
Richard Henry CURNOW, age 54, Inn Keeper, born Ludgvan
Jane do., wife, age 53, assisting in the business, born Ludgvan
Jane do., daughter, age 24, assisting in the business, born Ludgvan
John PERRY, boarder, age 56, married, farmer, born Wendron
Minnie CURNOW, daughter, age 17, assisting in the business, born Ludgvan

13th March 1886 Ludgvan - by Banns
Richard Henry Curnow, 29, bachelor, miner of Ludgvan, son of Thomas Curnow, miner
Jane Roberts, 28, spinster of Ludgvan, daughter of William Roberts, miner
Witnesses - Richard Roberts, Elizabeth Jenkin

There appears to be no other Jane/Janie Curnow in the Census who might be the girl in Susie's book which leads me to suspect that she was not born in the UK.

Interesting! - Assuming the birthdate of August 3rd, 1889 is accurately recorded then the birth should have been registered in the September Qtr of that year.
I just checked FreeBMD and there are but five Curnow births registered in the UK in that particular quarter and of those there are two females - Honor Elizabeth and Sophia Ann.
I then checked the whole year and there is not one birth registered in 1889 where Jane/Janie forms any part of the name.

If born in England then the only other possibility might be that Janie was a particular friend of Susie and that Curnow was her married name.
But even if that were the case she still does not appear in the Census which again suggests she was not in England even if she had been born there.

CT

[Isambard]

Sept 9, 2012 4:03:38 GMT -5 Cornish Terrier said:

In FreeBMD you will find that from 1912 the maiden name of the mother is recorded in the Index. In the case of both Kathleen and Horace the mother's name is recorded as Mitchell.
CT

Free BMD lists two Horace S. Curnow births Devonport, one mother Glasson and one as Mitchell. , although I've just found that page image shows Mitchell in a hand written entry .

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Sep 1919 (>99%)
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Curnow Horace S Glasson Devonport 5b 438
Curnow Horace S Mitchell Devonport 5b 438a

[Isambard]

Sept 9, 2012 4:11:33 GMT -5 sue said:

Janie Curnow I think you'll find is child of Richard Henry Curnow & Jane Roberts who married 13 Mar 1886 Ludgvan. Richard Henry Curnow's parents were Thomas Curnow & Margaret Hollow, and so on.

I believe her birth date was 3 August 1886, rather than 1889, if you want to re-check your wonderful document?

In 1911 this Janie Curnow is in the family business of innkeeping, Church Street Helston. Looks like it's young Janie who completed the census return for the family.

In 1901 Janie was a teacher, living with her widowed mother Jane & sister Minnie. Seems like Richard had a miraculous recovery at some point! Presumably he was out of contact abroad for some years....... (Possibly the married boarder in Montana 1900, born “Jan 1857”. )

Sue

Ooops, 3 August 1886 is in fact the date for Janie's birth shown in Susie's wonderful document, and it's my eyes that are not so wonderful.

Isambard