I have a match to a child of Humphry Eddy Quick son of Humphrey Ninnes Quick 1886 and Ethel Eddy 1882. Humphry was the husband of Lillian Joan Harvey who was the daughter of Frederick Henry Harvey 1886 and Ellen Mildren. Fred was the son of John Harvey and Edith Johns. John's parent were Thomas Harvey 1826 and Mary Pooley, Oh those Pooleys keep turning up!
An update-- I use Ancestry.com to build my tree, and as I keep adding to it, connections sometimes calculate by themselves. Just today, I found that via the Lanion family I am now a 13th cousin twice removed to my DNA match. That is much further back than it should be for a 5th to 8th cousin, but I am finding that to be common in parts of my family that were members of smaller gene pools. I am seeing the Cornish side start to play out that way. It doesn't make researching my matches easy!
I still expect a closer link, i.e., via the Harvey family, but at least the test seems to prove out.
P.S. A shout out to Polly Q and Lipkatatar for their inadvertent help with this query!
Post by spikeharwood on Oct 24, 2016 17:35:08 GMT -5
Hi Zib, The chances of finding an 8th cousin with a DNA match on Ancestry is less than 1%. Well done to you if you have a DNA match with a 13th cousin. But given the intermarrying between Cornish families and the resultant "pedigree collapse" it may well be that you and your DNA match have more than one genealogical link. I'd be keeping a lookout for such a possibility, you've mentioned your Harvey family and there may well be others. As you know, Gedmatch has better tools than AncestryDNA and getting your match to upload might give new clues as to the link.
I actually have 50 confirmed 5-8 cousin matches (displayed family overlap - green leaf and all) and there are more I have been able to establish when my information goes farther than what my "match" has entered. I cannot count them right now as the website is sluggish tonight. Many of these are from having identified my on great-grandparent who turned out to have family going back to the colonies. I finally figured out who he was 4 years ago. So, as an American connecting with a big American database, I am winning the lottery on that part of my family
I am working on creating a spreadsheet to look at the match level, family links, etc. to try to get a better grip on this. I did accidently discover that one can click on the "i" in a circle within an Ancestry match and see the Centi-Morgan and segment information. That took me a few months.
My match in this particular instance is at 10.1 centi-Morgans over 1 DNA segment, and that seems strong given the relationship distance I am finding no matter what chromosome is involved.
A sibling of mine tested, and we share 2520 cM over 63 segments! Also share about half of my Ancestry DNA Matches. My next closest relative is my mother's second cousin at 116 cM over 6 segments. I share matches in the 30-45 cM range over 2- 3 segments with a family group of Cornish cousins to whom I am related at least 3 ways in the 3-8th cousin range.
When at 10 cM that helps re: perspective.
Last Edit: Oct 24, 2016 23:23:45 GMT -5 by zibetha
I thought I would share my latest progress and setback on the DNA front. I finally cracked the identity of someone with whom I share several matches. User name turned out to be an abbreviation of a business name, and the DNA results were linked to this person's spouse. Big headache.
I had read that Ancestry does not show shared matches at the 5th-8th cousin level. While that is true, if you have a mutual link closer than that, it does appear! I mention that because this applies to my present search, and I have been able to establish that the link I am looking for is actually on the Sampson side of my family. I had no idea!
As an additional comment, the DNA results offer no help unless you have built the paper trail. I see too many people tossing their money at the test without the understanding that the family tree is important, and you won't receive a magic list of your relatives. You need both to work the matches. I choose to keep my tree private and contact people with whom I have a known or possible match.
I have written about my Crowan to USA family previously, but I think this one deserves a mention. The first child born to my great-great-grandparents Harvey in the US was their 3rd of 11. He died of scarlet fever before age 5. I knew that as of 2008. I got a message today from a fellow Find a Grave member who noticed I was researching the family and thought I would like to know about the memorial she had created. Yes, I did. Some of the cemeteries in Upper Michigan are overgrown and records are missing due to fires My great-grandfather Edward Harvey (Jr) was the next son to be named Edward. He also died before I was born. I have felt shyness in terms of putting myself out on the internet, but it has been rewarding. Thanks to all of you who have helped me with my research.