Post by Cornish Terrier on Sept 14, 2015 21:01:23 GMT -5
Hi Zib - many thanks for the attachments which have arrived safely via email. I had not noticed the connections via the Cock family but I do have them all in my database as a result of some work I did with Kathie (Zenobia) many years back around and just before the time she started this forum. One of these days I am going to have to work through all of those Cock links and get the information all cross-checked with the PRs but I think it will have to wait until I get the Trewhellas done.
A small update. William had an older brother, Martin, named after their grandfather. Martin married the neighbor girl, Emma Bawden (daughter of Edward Bawden and Margaret Trewhella -- and link to the Cocke family.) Martin and Emily's oldest son, Martin, went to Australia. He married Eda Cock. I have a new DNA match with their great-great-grandson, Steve Small world.
PS We share 33 CentiMorgans of DNA over 3 segments and look nothing alike (if anyone cares!) New science...
Last Edit: Jul 24, 2016 16:11:49 GMT -5 by zibetha
Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 25, 2016 7:19:58 GMT -5
Hi Zib - I just found that I already had the marriage of Martin and Emma in my database. I didn't have son Martin and his marriage to Eda Cock but have now rectified that having found it in the South Australian records.
I don't know if you had noticed but when Emma married Martin Harvey she and her father we both signing their name as BOWDEN.
If you are interested in the Bawden/Bowden side you will find that Matthew (son of Edward Bawden and Margaret Trewhela) married Jane Stephens at St Agnes in 1838. I then have a gap until 1845 when their first-known child was born at Real del Monte in Mexico! I have a total of eight children for them born in Mexico with the last being Margaret about 1859/60. Their last known child was daughter EDA born at Truo in 1861. Matthew apparently died at Penzance 11th August 1899.
I only discovered this line of Bowdens/Bawdens about 10 days ago while sorting out some of the Shugg family. Interestingly, Matthew and Jane's daughter, Julia, married Frederick William Topping. I just discovered that their daughter, Constance Eileen, married into my Sampson family: to Rev. Francis/Frank Sampson Ford, a third cousin 3x removed (of mine.) They were married in India in 1915.
I had found previously that Julia's sister, Margaret, married her cousin Rev. William Edward Shugg and moved to the US.
Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 26, 2016 0:00:53 GMT -5
Hi Zib - I have not done a lot of work on these families yet but just enough to give me a start once I get back to reviewing all Trewhella links.
At the moment I am trying to create a workable index of marriages for Illogan and Redruth to cover the years not available via other sources. It is somewhat more difficult than I first thought as I have to check every entry in FreeBMD, identify the page numbers relating to each Parish and then try to match up the brides and grooms through Census, newspapers and other records!
If you happen to come across any Redruth or Illogan marriage certificates out there I would appreciate copies if possible so that I can fill in more information and try to get the marriages in order. The years I need are 1837-1889 for Illogan and 1837-1902 for Redruth.
Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 26, 2016 15:36:30 GMT -5
It's turning into a much bigger project that I envisaged and not helped by the state of the GRO indexes and sometimes compounded by transcription errors in FreeBMD. The more certificates I can get a hold of the better so anything you might find will be useful.
The other relative's links are to Eddy's and Quicks.I have no paper trail leading to that. I can link to the Quick family (long distance) if my theory of Jennifer/Jane Taylor(wife of William Semmons) is correct. I have some DNA support there.
Post by Cornish Terrier on Oct 3, 2016 3:46:18 GMT -5
The husband of Ann Oaty and father of Mary Harvey. Son of William Harvey and Elizabeth Ward.
Okay - then the logical conclusion is that this William must have a link with your William Harvey a little further back. Either that or there is an Oatey connection in their somewhere?
On the 'other relative' - if the family is all in the same general area then for Eddys and Quicks you would be looking towards Sithney. I haven't done too much on the Eddys around there but I do know that at least some of the Quicks link back to Ludgvan. William Quick was the illegitimate son of Mary Quick and baptised at Ludgvan in 1796. Mary was a daughter of Richard Quick and Honor Jacka who married at Ludgvan in 1767 and in 1802 she married John Renoden at Ludgvan. The above William married Celia Eddy at Sithney in 1816 with she being daughter of John Eddy and Sarah Eddy who married at Sithney in 1769. I have not traced John Eddy any further but Sarah was daughter of James Eddy and his first wife Elizabeth Barnicoat who married at Sithney in 1747.
Post by Cornish Terrier on Oct 4, 2016 1:20:17 GMT -5
Perhaps we had better get some more information on the new relative's links back to Thomas Harvey and see if we can verify them. Some details about the Quick and Eddy connections might also be worth looking at.
And then maybe we should start looking at what Wills might be useful and make an effort to get a look at them.
I have a DNA match to a child (or perhaps her daughter given the timeframe) of Humphry Eddy Quick son of Humphrey Ninnes Quick 1886 and Ethel Eddy 1882. Humphry was the husband of Lillian Joan Harvey who was the daughter of Frederick Henry Harvey 1886 and Ellen Mildren. Fred was the son of John Harvey and Edith Johns. John's parent were Thomas Harvey 1826 and Mary Pooley, Oh those Pooleys keep turning up! Thomas was the son of Thomas Harvey and Ann Oatey.
I find climbing the family tree harder than sliding down!