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Post by sue on Oct 12, 2013 12:06:39 GMT -5
Thanks: hmm, that would correspond to the baptism of Elizabeth Mary 17 March 1876 St Ives Circuit, to William & Elizabeth Curnow of Rosewall Hill. (For once a respectable c9 months after the marriage!!) Yet apparently no more children, so best bet remains Wm Curnow died abroad, somewhere, 1876 - 1881. New toys eh? No need for it!! Sue
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2013 13:56:50 GMT -5
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I can tell you that 30 year old William Henry Curnow married the 28 year old widow Sophia Webber on the 1st May 1875 at the Register Office in Penzance. At the time of the marriage William Henry was a bachelor and a waggon driver of Polpeor. He suggests that he was the son of William Curnow, a miner who was deceased. Sophia was living at Wheal Kitty, Lelant and was the daughter of William Carlyon.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Oct 24, 2013 1:21:16 GMT -5
This latest information from Lannanta provides us with one more hurdle to overcome - - this might suggest it more likely that he was the son of William Curnow and Jane Harris. But I tend to agree that it is only William Henry Taylor Curnow who is consistently recorded as 'William Henry' with the others all being recorded as 'William' in the Census. Although William Henry Taylor Curnow (under any obvious name) cannot be found in FreeBMD it is worth noting that between 1842 and 1849 there are NO Birth entries for 'William H Curnow'. This then suggests that it must have been William Henry Taylor Curnow who married Sophia Webber and that he was misleading in nominating his father as William Curnow. Also interesting is the family of William Curnow and Jane Harris whose ages after the 1851 Census become somewhat erratic to say the least! Son William was age 5 in 1851 yet by 1871 he is only 22. In fact in 1871 it is only the ages of the last three children - Lydia, Thomas and Richard - which are near accurate and even daughter Mary Sarah is known as Mary Jane in 1871!. That might be worth considering now that it seems you might have just two candidates for the husband of Elizabeth Ellis. CT
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Post by sue on Oct 24, 2013 10:04:19 GMT -5
Lannanta: thankyou. Since Wm Henry Curnow named his father as William Curnow, deceased, at the May 1875 marriage, one could at 1st glance jump to the conclusion that he was the son of Wm Curnow & Jane Harris, as CT says, being as how he is the only Wm Curnow remaining on my short-list who has a father named William. However, Jane Harris' husband Wm Curnow was still alive at that point, not being buried until 20 March 1876 at Towednack according to me (of Halsetown by that time; widow Jane + some children were at Halsetown 1881). I just can't see a groom of full adult age declaring his father as deceased when he was actually living in the locality...... so add that to the consistent use of the middle name Henry, & it's looking to me very much like it was Wm Henry Taylor Curnow son of Elizabeth Curnow who married Sophia, & “misled” (I take it that in Australian that means fibbed to) the registrar as to the name of his father. (Would be perfect if there were helpful marriage witnesses, but I guess no such luck.) [Just in passing: I recall I have another illegitimate Curnow who at marriage (1870) declares their father as William Curnow deceased; let me see... yes, Ellen c1843 (another birth not yet found in FBMD....) daughter of Honor Curnow along the way at Amalebry in 1851. Who knows, it may have been so in her case, but I don't think you would name a child Wm Henry Taylor Curnow unless there was a good chance the father's initials were HT... I reckon William was the commonest Curnow name at the time, so just slot it in! Or perhaps there was a "well-known" Wm Curnow in the Towednack vicinity 1840s....] And that, as CT says, leaves the way clear for the husband of Elizabeth Ellis to be William Curnow son of Wm Curnow & Jane Harris. We have deduced that this Wm Curnow died abroad between his 1875 marriage & 1881 – or at least disappeared off abroad never to be seen again. Of Wm Curnow~Jane Harris' other sons I have only James (born 1855-58) disappearing, also pre 1881. Oh darn – just re-read my own post of 11 October, as well as realizing that CT has not said there's only one candidate left, but two, oops: the husband of Elizabeth Ellis (whilst not now being in the frame for marrying Sophia), could also be No. 8 on my list, the son of John Curnow & Peggy Nankervis. Sue
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2013 14:00:19 GMT -5
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The husband of Elizabeth Ellis was a 28 year old tin miner bachelor named William, also son of a William Curnow and living at Rosewall Hill in Towednack. Married at the Register Office 24th April 1875.
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Post by sue on Oct 24, 2013 15:08:22 GMT -5
Gracious me! More thanks.
Thus the husband of Elizabeth Ellis was the son of William Curnow 1818 (living in 1875!) and Jane Harris, Wm the groom possibly born nearer 1847 than 1845, & their apparent only child was Elizabeth Mary named from the Ellis side.
(I shall put it down to Mere Coincidence that Sampson Curnow 1880 son of William Henry Curnow & Sophia Carlyon went on to marry an Emily Harris over Illogan way in 1903.....!)
Sue
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Oct 25, 2013 0:45:44 GMT -5
Ah! The joys of teamwork! I take it the two marriage records are from the newspapers? CT
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