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Post by glenys on Dec 31, 2011 16:57:59 GMT -5
My paternal grandmother was from Hayle and the family go back hundreds of years.
Anyone on here with Hosking connections?
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Post by davidkingmartin on Jan 2, 2012 8:42:58 GMT -5
Glenys: I have some HOSKING (s) connections. eg.William Henry Hosking,Ludgvan, tin dresser,married Elizabeth Martin, my gt g-aunt. Her father:Joseph. His father:Sampson. Data from marr.cert 22 Sept.1860,Penzance. Many children.
David
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Post by lilybee on Jan 24, 2012 13:15:48 GMT -5
Glenys I too have some Hosking connections. John Hosking (1805- 1895) a farmer of Rosevidney Ludgvan married a Elizabeth Pool. Both are buried at Ludgvan They had 9 children . Elizabeth's parents were Joseph Pool and Mary Sampson my gt gt grandparents. Regards Lillian
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Post by trestrail on Mar 22, 2012 20:40:21 GMT -5
Hi, I'm Linda Trestrail. I went back to the late 1700's and found my Trestrail connection from Hayle married a Hosking, but when I looked at the Hosking name, I was stunned to see how many Hoskings there were in Cornwall. Huge families everywhere. I unfortunately only have one Hosking on my tree and don't even know where to begin to searching further back from the one Hosking I have.
John Trestrail married Elizabeth Hosking in Phillack on March 3, 1811. John was buried August 6, 1824 at age 40, while Elizabeth lived until August 12, 1850, and was 58 when she died. They had 8 children.
Like I said there were hundreds of Hoskings in the region. I wish I could branch out on the Hosking name and find Elizabeth's parents.
Linda Trestrail
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Mar 23, 2012 2:47:31 GMT -5
Linda - I have commenced a bit of work on this query to see if I can help find the correct family for Elizabeth Hosking. When I undertake something like this I start by attempting to piece together the immediate family and find out about them before trying to move backwards. And already I have some anomalies! The marriage details are correct and the burials for John and Elizabeth appear to be the right ones but once I get to the children the problems begin to appear. You have stated that there were 8 children to John and Elizabeth Trestrail yet I can find but 6. John bp. 7th June 1811 Phillack Richard bp. 13th September 1812 Phillack Elizabeth bp. 12th March 1815 Phillack William bp. 8th March 1818 Phillack James bp. 7th May 1820 Phillack Thomas bp. 9th March 1823 Phillack In the 1841 Census we find Elizabeth at Guilford, Phillack and her age is recorded as 49. With her are her youngest son Thomas who is then age 19 and a Henry Trestrail age 14. In 1851 this same Henry Trestrail is age 25 and lodging with the family of Christopher Seymour at Trevassack, Phillack but after this he seems to disappear. I have been unable to find any baptismal record for this Henry but there must be some doubt that John Trestrail was his father given the combined information from the 1841 and 1851 Census suggests he was born in 1826 - at least 16 months after John was buried. He could be an illegitimate son of Elizabeth but until I can find a record of his baptism there must be some uncertainty. But leaving Henry out of the equation for the moment you stated that there were 8 children to John and Elizabeth in which case there are two missing! Can you give me whatever details you have about these additional children please? I need to know the names as well as when they were born/baptised before I can consider possibilities for the parents of Elizabeth. CT
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Mar 23, 2012 3:45:39 GMT -5
Linda - I still require the information on those additional children but in the meantime I found another way to determine the probable parents of Elizabeth Hosking! On the basic information I had, most importantly the burial information, I was able to determine that Elizabeth was 'probably' born about 1792. That, of course, is allowing that her age was at least near accurately recorded when she was buried. The most likely possibility was baptised at Phillack in 1792 to William and Elizabeth Hosking. However in 1794 at St Erth another Elizabeth was baptised also to William and Elizabeth so I needed to determine whether or not this was the same family. A little research showed that there were indeed two different Hosking families parented by William and Elizabeth. Although Phillack and St Erth share a border it did seem that the two families remained in their respective Parishes so it appeared that your Elizabeth was going to be the one baptised at Phillack. I found only three children for William and Elizabeth at Phillack:- Catherine bp. 29th November 1789 Elizabeth bp. 29th April 1792 Richard bp. 28th July 1798 Thus the parents would be:- William Hosking married Elizabeth Matthews 18th May 1788 at Phillack Unfortunately Elizabeth died prior to the 1851 Census so we have no information about her birthplace which of course is not recorded in 1841. Enter the 'lateral chase'! To see if I could find any possible links I decided to see if a marriage for Catherine and/or Richard Hosking might be found. And for a change it appears that I hit 'pay dirt' straight up! ;D Edmund Uren of Gwinear married Catherine Hosking 18th July 1810 at Phillack That on its own proves nothing and even the Census records are a little inconclusive. In 1841 Catherine was recorded as age 52 which fits nicely with the information above. In 1851 Catherine's age appears to be 67 and her birthplace is Gwinear. In 1861 Catherine was a widow age 72 and her birthplace recorded as Gwithian. In all cases this was undoubtedly the wife of Edmund Uren but, as you can see, the information was quite confusing. But let's return to the Marriage Record where there is just a little more information that might be of some use! One of the Witnesses was Edmund Uren who was probably the father of the groom. The second Witness was .............................................. JOHN TRESTRAIL! ;D Although John Trestrail and Elizabeth Hosking were not married until the following year the signiature of John Trestrail in both cases is very similar so I would suggest that it was the same man. And that gives the link that suggests that Elizabeth was indeed the daughter of William Hosking and Elizabeth (nee Matthews)! CT
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Post by teapotty on Apr 5, 2012 11:25:03 GMT -5
I have a Grace Hosking b 1800. Can find her mother (Mary) but no father mentioned in Christening records for Ludgvan
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Post by sue on Apr 5, 2012 12:30:59 GMT -5
Hi Grace Hosking baptized Ludgvan 31 March 1800 bastard of Mary Hosking. A lot of that around! Sue P.S. Although there often is no clue as to the putative father, sometimes you can get lucky. The kind of thing that can be available there is an example of here: west-penwith.org.uk/ludgbb.htmbut I believe I would be right in saying that the men named aren't necessarily the fathers.......
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Post by teapotty on Apr 5, 2012 13:31:19 GMT -5
Hi Grace Hosking baptized Ludgvan 31 March 1800 bastard of Mary Hosking. A lot of that around! Sue P.S. Although there often is no clue as to the putative father, sometimes you can get lucky. The kind of thing that can be available there is an example of here: west-penwith.org.uk/ludgbb.htmbut I believe I would be right in saying that the men named aren't necessarily the fathers....... Ah Sue, there she is. There a quite a few Hoskings on the same list, including another Mary, or the same one at it again, about 7 years later. You seem to have a lot of resources down there. I wish I had taken more interest in genealogy when we were still living in Praze. Thank you so much
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Post by trestrail on Apr 26, 2012 22:31:47 GMT -5
I am so delighted to see these messages. I haven't been on and I also don't receive email notifications when there is a response. I must bookmark this and come back tomorrow when I am rested. This is so wonderful that I have now added another surname to my lineage...MATTHEWS. I have a son named Matthew. I'll sign back on Friday morning, and continue this conversation. Cornish Terrier, checking my records, there were only 6 children not 8 between John and Elizabeth Trestrail. my late night error. More tomorrow. I'm so excited to see these postings. Linda Trestrail.
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Post by trestrail on Apr 26, 2012 22:48:13 GMT -5
I am so delighted to see these messages. I haven't been on and I also don't receive email notifications when there is a response. I must bookmark this and come back tomorrow when I am rested. This is so wonderful that I have now added another surname to my lineage...MATTHEWS. I have a son named Matthew. I'll sign back on Friday morning, and continue this conversation. Cornish Terrier, checking my records, there were only 6 children not 8 between John and Elizabeth Trestrail. my late night error. More tomorrow. I'm so excited to see these postings. Linda Trestrail.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Apr 27, 2012 3:36:43 GMT -5
Linda - unfortunately there is no function available to send notifications when threads are updated so you really need to check back on a regular basis. CT
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Post by trestrail on Apr 28, 2012 12:24:33 GMT -5
Dear Cornish Terrier, Again I want to thank you so deeply from my heart for the research you did in posting that March 23rd posting on the Hoskings. You've taught me value ways to logically deduce and determine family lines with similar names as we all well know that the Cornish named their offspring after family members. I've moved it up one more generation thanks to your help.
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Post by taipan72. on Jan 19, 2017 20:31:15 GMT -5
Whear is a common name..and their are many variations... I too, also have Wheare /whear in my family again with many variations over the years ..Most of mine I'm told come from Gywinear ..still researching etc...
I don't know anything about Hosking or if I'd be connected to you in anyway but my
GGG GF was Thomas Henry Wheare/whear b in Breage and he married a Caroline Sparnon (Snr) she was born in Redruth. My Thomas was a miner and they came to Australia settling in South Australia and continued to mine over here they must've done ok as they had a property in South Australia called Kooringa.
But yes there's many Whear/Wheare/ and other spelling variations all over!.
Hope you find yours.
Regards Taipan72
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Post by taipan72. on Mar 25, 2017 17:48:24 GMT -5
I have Whear & hocking via Sparnon. Whear -my nana was a Whear!.
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