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Post by cornishmaid on Mar 3, 2008 15:54:26 GMT -5
Just a point to add to CT's, I have looked through the baptisms for St Ives from 1730-1840 and no Cogans at all. Lots of Cogars though. It never hurts to keep an open mind though. I've certainly disproved a few family "facts" since starting this family tree business, and have had to show the proof on several occasions before anyone would believe me .
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Mar 4, 2008 11:48:55 GMT -5
Just decided to check my own database to see if I had any record that might help us. (Should have done this before but was in a rush.) From the St Ives Online Parish Registers:- Mary COGAR Noall was born at St Ives 29th December 1882. She was baptised at St Ives 12th January 1883 as daughter of William Bryant Noall and Mary Ann (nee PETERS) of 'Carn Crows Road'. Hope this helps. Ian
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Post by anothernoall on Mar 4, 2008 18:59:14 GMT -5
Thankyou both Cornishmaid and Cornish Terrier, I agree with you both, im pretty sure it is Cogar even though I dont think my father in law will ever accept this ;D There are Cogans living in Phillack around the same time Mary Cogar was born but i cant find any immediate connections to that...I think ill just let that one slide! As for the Towednack link, i found a fourth cousin once removed of his that moved there, I wonder if that will be close enough to please I was wondering, (in a sweet and pleading way of course!) if anyone had researched the ancestry of Elizabeth Ninnes (b1921/20 i cant remember off the top...)? There were so many Ninnes at Towednack im wondering if this could be the start of the story he knows. That said, nearly all the stories i was told at first ive managed to discount, So a good job i found some real history to soften the blow ;D Thankyou
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Post by cornishmaid on Mar 5, 2008 3:53:40 GMT -5
I'm afraid I haven't taken Elizabeth's side back any further than her father William Ninnes (as stated in the marriage transcript) at the moment. My husband has Ninnes' on his mother's side, and I know my husband's gran's brother has done quite a lot of work on the Ninnes'/Baragwanaths and his findings are kept at the St Ives Archive Centre. I haven't yet had time to get down there recently to have a look at it. Whether this is the same Ninnes family I am unsure, but they probably join somewhere along the line. If you do go searching for her ancestry, don't forget the myriad of spelling variations used for surnames.. Ninnes, Ninnis, etc. These things are sent to try us Elizabeth married William Bryant Noall in 1843, so at least we have the 1841 for reference. This may well be it: HO107/144/5, ED: 1; Folio: 8 Page: 8, Address: Wharf, St Ives NINNIS William M 55 Fisherman Cornwall NINNIS Betsey F 55 Cornwall NINNIS Betsey F 20 Tailoress Cornwall Baptism for Elizabeth on 13 February 1820, daughter of William and Elizabeth Ninnes (William listed as a fisherman). Could this then be the marriage of William and Elizabeth? 7 Jun 1818 William NINNIS & Elizabeth HUMPHRYS I can find no other siblings for Elizabeth. It looks as though William Ninnes married Elizabeth when he was in his 30s. If you want this taken further or would like some help exploring Elizabeth's ancestors, it would be a good idea to start a new thread under St Ives
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Mar 6, 2008 9:36:25 GMT -5
I cannot find anything of immediate help but am trying to keep up with things until my ISP shuts down. I am working on plans t get back on line after that happens but there may be some problems. I will be certainly trying to help, especially if your Ninnes family had Towednack connections. My intent is to pursue this as soon as I can as it may be (via the Ninnes line) that would could have some sort of kinship. Must check more messages while I can. Ian
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Post by anothernoall on Mar 9, 2008 7:08:28 GMT -5
Ah thankyou both again! Cornishmaid I think you have the right people there, and also solved a little puzzle for me...I will write a little more on that in a new thread in the St Ives as you suggest
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Mar 9, 2008 10:58:31 GMT -5
Good to see you are still communicating and taking some 'weight' off my shoulders (which are not that big anyway ). I will try and keep up with this - as I can- but agree that we are now looking at more of a St Ives thread or, if we find enough interest, a thread for NOALL in the Surnames thread. For now I would suggest we go to St Ives and see how we go. A bit more to do before I have to quit for the night so - keep up the good work and I will get more involved as soon as I can. Ian
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Post by jasmineamber123 on Nov 19, 2016 18:35:31 GMT -5
Hello there! Hoping this thread is still active :/ My grandmother is Frances bray (noall) her parents were William Bryant noall and Mary Johanna noall (perkin) Williams mother and father were honor john and William Bryant I would also love info on the noalls !
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Nov 20, 2016 8:51:12 GMT -5
No need to worry - even if a thread has not been active for several years it is still 'open'. Let us know what it is you are looking for and we will be glad to try and help. CT
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