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Post by joanne on Nov 9, 2011 9:24:29 GMT -5
I have an ANN CORNO BARNES ( curnow) d/o MARGARET TONKIN & STEPHEN BARNES, she is the only one of their children with a surname as a middle name , i'm learning.. but presume that this would be a surname of a female relative eg. grandmother /greatgrandmother etc. Have been trying to find a connection  Surnames i can put to the family are JAMES/TREGURTHA/TONKIN/BARNES/HOSKIN/ Can anyone or has anyone any information that may enlighten me??!!!! Joanne  |
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Nov 9, 2011 11:37:11 GMT -5
Joanne - I have looked at this one a number of times over the years and still not been able to work out where the name originates in this family.
It is often a reference to a relative but not always the case. There are occasions when a good friend or even someone of some influence or fame is the source.
CT
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Post by joanne on Nov 9, 2011 21:09:39 GMT -5
Thanks again CT,
I am making some headway but still have not found anything on the whereabouts of Stephen BVarnes & Margaret Tonkin after the Paul baptisms of their children or their son Stephen?... regarding Ann Corno Barnes marriage being in Maker Cornwall close to Devon i see its also close to St. Germans...prob co-incedence or dad Stephen Barnes may have been stationed thereabouts or lol...perhaps that is where JOHN GOOD is from hes a doozy..cant find anything on him except he was born 1783....cheers CT
kind regards Joanne
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Post by trencrom on Dec 11, 2011 21:05:54 GMT -5
What time frame was Ann Corno born in?
A female ancestor's maiden name is the immediate thought but if you have been able to rule that out then I would be asking if there was a neighbour with that name. I found a mid-19th century instance in Lelant where someone was evidently named after a neighbour's wife in this way.
Trencrom
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Dec 11, 2011 21:43:30 GMT -5
Welcome back Trencrom. Ann Corno Barnes d/o Stephen and Margaret (nee Tonkin) was baptised 3rd July 1796 at Paul CT |
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Post by joanne on Feb 5, 2014 18:53:09 GMT -5
hello all, regarding my previous post above "curnow as a middle name"....early into researching the following so nothing concrete....I am thinking until conformation or dismal that regarding 'Ann Corno Barnes' bap 3rd July 1796 Paul, that she MAY have been named after her father Stephen Barnes bp 1765 Paul "mother"...ANN RICHARDS, Mother so Ann Corno's Great GRANDMOTHER whom i believe may be (ANNE CURNOW bp 7th May 1730 d/o Philip?,,she married William Richards 8th Nov. 1755 Paul)....(this is not 100 percent proven on my part, just looking at possibilities),in the opc there is not as yet a baptism for Ann Richards to this couple, but then i am not ruling it out as have recently discovered the son of Stephen Barnes & Margaret Tonkin STEPHEN BARNES born in Mousehole 1794!!! but with the Tonkin family" some possibilities "do include the Curnow name, but as with the above Richards family nothing concrete in whom the parents are of Ann Richards and Margaret Tonkin.....tonkin was looking at JAMES TONKIN & ANN DAVIS/DAVIES  ? any help for or against these presumptions would be appreciated!!! Cheers all Joanne |
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Feb 6, 2014 4:14:58 GMT -5
No, that won't do at all! Stephen Barnes and Ann Richards were married in 1765 at which time the Ann Curnow you mention would have been just 35 years old. A bit young to be the grandmother of a girl getting married! But I think I do have another solution for you! And this solution requires me to do a little rethinking and and make some amendments to my database! The marriage entry in the Paul Parish Register shows that Ann Richards was a WIDOW when she married Stephen Barnes. And this marriage was witnessed by a Philip Curnow who appears to be the same man who, along with Richard Curnow, was a witness at the marriage of William Richards and Ann Curnow in 1755. That tentatively now means that you may be correct about the identity of Ann Curnow in which case you can ignore my first comments above.  I have quite a bit of work to do on this now before I can give you all the required details but I will make an effort to get that work done sometime tonight. CT |
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Feb 6, 2014 5:07:24 GMT -5
Okay, here it is as simply and briefly as I can put it. Philip Curnow of Paul married Ann Curnow at Towednack 28th April 1724. There were four children that I am aware of all baptised at Paul - Phillis, Richard, Ann and Philip. Ann daughter of Philip Curnow was baptised at Paul 7th May 1730 m1. William Richards, fisherman, 8th November 1755 at Paul by Banns - witnesses Richard Curnow and Philip Curnow (William son of William Richards and Ann bp. 1st August 1756 Paul) m2. Stephen Barnes, fisherman, 21st April 1765 Paul by Banns - witnesses Stepn. Barnes and Philip Curnow Ann wife of Stephen Barnes Junr. was buried at Paul 9th December 1775 at which time son Stephen would have been about 10 years old. Stephen later named his eldest daughter 'Ann Curno Barnes' after his mother.  CT |
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Post by joanne on Feb 6, 2014 6:11:25 GMT -5
Whoo hoo CT...thankyou heaps...... .........finally can say where my Ann Curno /Corno/Curnow/ Barnes got her name...and gees i was a bit mixed up above trying to fit another Ann in there ???lol.....i havent looked at the Ann Richards & Stephen Barnes for ages...cant thankyou enough CT you always help me make sence of my Jumbles!!! appreciate your time and effort and knowledge...so now i can look into my Curnow ancestry!!! .... ps...i finally found the son STEPHEN BARNES born to STEPHEN BARNES and MARGARET TONKIN, he was born in Mousehole 1794, was in the Coast Guard stationed IN Cork, Ireland..... still haven't found MARGRET TONKIN's definate birth/bap parents or deaths for Her and Stephen Barnes.... thanking you heaps....legend CT regards Joanne |
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Feb 6, 2014 8:48:00 GMT -5
A pleasure. |
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