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Post by Isambard on Jan 13, 2008 18:31:08 GMT -5
I'm looking for ancestors, descendents and information about Isaac Newton b. abt 1801 and family , shown in 1841 census as living in Adelaide Street, Penzance, with wife Elizabeth b. abt 1796, and children: ELIZABETH NEWTON, b. Abt. 1826. ROBERT NEWTON, b. Abt. 1827 FANNY NEWTON, b. Abt. 1828. JULIA NEWTON, b. Abt. 1831. ISAAC NEWTON, b. Abt. 1837  |
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Post by londoner on Jan 14, 2008 7:09:17 GMT -5
IGI has marriage of Isaac Newton to Elizabeth Gendall at Madron 2nd May 1819. Isaac was a butcher as was his son Robert.
Also on 1841 census is Alexander Newton - age 20 possibly another Son. He moved to London
possible baptism for Isaac 19 Nov 1797 at Penzance, father William
There was another Isaac - a miner at Gulval m to Ann Newton 1815.
I've sent you a PM with the information from Cornwall online Census project
Hope this helps
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Post by londoner on Jan 14, 2008 11:17:35 GMT -5
Parents of William Fuller Newton
Josephine Fuller married Robert Newton:
1850
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: West London
County: London
Volume: 2
Page: 292
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jan 14, 2008 13:09:30 GMT -5
None of these currently in my database but I will keep watching this thread and do what I can as soon as possible. I do have several Isaac Newtons recorded but they are years before and after. But it is possible that your man may be related to Henry Newton (1814-1902) who married Catherine Trewhella at St Erth in 1844. Let's see what happens from here. Ian |
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Post by Isambard on Jan 16, 2008 12:10:50 GMT -5
Parents of William Fuller Newton Josephine Fuller married Robert Newton: 1850 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: West London County: London Volume: 2 Page: 292 I have a copy of their marriage certificate; marriage was 15 Dec 1850. Robert's occupation was butcher, his father Isaac. I've just discovered that his brother, Alexander, was Alexander Gendall Newton, who married Marian Ponise 15 June 1845 in Madron (vol 9 pg 239). I believe John Keggan Newton was a son of Alexander and Marian, and that he was probably the John Keggin Newton who died Dec 1852 in Penzance (vol 5c pg 214). Elizabeth (Newton) Roberts appears to have married Samuel Roberts 1 Dec 1844 in Madron. The search for parents of Isaac Newton and Elizabeth Gendall and for other info on their 1851 family members continues. |
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Post by Isambard on Jan 30, 2008 16:14:55 GMT -5
IGI has marriage of Isaac Newton to Elizabeth Gendall at Madron 2nd May 1819. Isaac was a butcher as was his son Robert. Also on 1841 census is Alexander Newton - age 20 possibly another Son. He moved to London possible baptism for Isaac 19 Nov 1797 at Penzance, father William There was another Isaac - a miner at Gulval m to Ann Newton 1815. I've sent you a PM with the information from Cornwall online Census project Hope this helps Hello Londoner. How did you find that Alexander (Gendall) Newton had moved to London? When? I have yet to find any death/place info for him or his wife Marian. Alexander married Marian Ponisi in Madron 15 June 1845. Witnesses to the marriage of his brother Robert and Josephine Fuller in London 15 December 1850 were William Fuller (possibly Jospephine's brother) and Judith Baynes. Robert and Josephine eventually moved to Madron with two children, Mary Elizabeth and William Fuller, a third child, Robert, was born there in 1862. It's interesting to speculate as to what led to people moving to and from Penzance/London in those days given the distance involved and the state of roads. |
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Post by londoner on Jan 30, 2008 16:34:28 GMT -5
Census records: 1851 Southwark Alexander Newton 30 Mary Ann Newton 26 Mary Ann Newton 5 Rosina Newton 1861 Holborn Alexander Newton 48 Bo Newton 14 Clara Newton 6 Mo Isaac Newton 19 James Newton 26 Julia Newton 2 Mary Ann Newton 36 Robert Newton 4 Rosina Newton 12 1871 Soho Alexander Newton 50 Clara Newton 6 Isaac Newton 19 James Newton 15 Julia Newton 4 Maryann Newton 45 Robert Newton 13 Robina Newton 22 1881 Marylebone Alexander Newton 60 Bootmaker Clara Newton 15 Esther Newton 9 granddaughter Mary Newton 56 Let me know if you want more details |
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Post by Isambard on Jan 31, 2008 11:56:20 GMT -5
Census records: 1851 Southwark Alexander Newton 30 Mary Ann Newton 26 Mary Ann Newton 5 Rosina Newton 1861 Holborn Alexander Newton 48 Bo Newton 14 Clara Newton 6 Mo Isaac Newton 19 James Newton 26 Julia Newton 2 Mary Ann Newton 36 Robert Newton 4 Rosina Newton 12 1871 Soho Alexander Newton 50 Clara Newton 6 Isaac Newton 19 James Newton 15 Julia Newton 4 Maryann Newton 45 Robert Newton 13 Robina Newton 22 1881 Marylebone Alexander Newton 60 Bootmaker Clara Newton 15 Esther Newton 9 granddaughter Mary Newton 56 Let me know if you want more details Thank you Londoner. It certainly looks like Alexander Gendall N. and Mary Ann (Marian Ponisi) N. in London. Some puzzling questions: Alexander's age 48 in 1861? Bo, Isaac, James and Julia appear to be from another branch of the family, parents unknown. Ages for Isaac, James and Julia are inconsistent between 1861 and 1871. Esther Newton's parents? |
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Post by londoner on Jan 31, 2008 12:18:50 GMT -5
Terrible transcriptions.  1871 is closer to truth. Bo in 1861 = ditto ie Mary Ann. whoever filled in the forms put all the boys ages in the female column and vice versa hence the confusion. All are either sons or daughters of Alexander. I suggest - but will check later- that Julia may have died and a later offspring been given the same name. Esther could well be the daughter of Isaac - I'll look for them in later censuses In 1851 Robert & Josephine Newton were living close by - Alexander's brother |
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Feb 9, 2008 11:51:35 GMT -5
You two seem to be doing ok on this one so I will simply keep tabs on it for now. Will offer help as soon as I can but have lots of catching up to do. BTW - dependant on occupation it was not really unusual for Cornish men (and their families) to be involved in London and then have events recorded back in Cornwall. Devon, although much closer to Cornwall (obviously :  is another example where people from West Cornwall returned home to baptise children. Many a Census record will show records of a Cornish couple having children in (e.g.) Wales but records show some of these children baptised back in Cornwall. Will, as I said, keep tabs and offer further help as soon as I can. Ian |
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1871 is closer to truth. Bo in 1861 = ditto ie Mary Ann. whoever filled in the forms put all the boys ages in the female column and vice versa hence the confusion. All are either sons or daughters of Alexander. I suggest - but will check later- that Julia may have died and a later offspring been given the same name. Esther could well be the daughter of Isaac - I'll look for them in later censuses
is another example where people from West Cornwall returned home to baptise children.