Ann Glasson of Crowan

[Cornish Terrier]

Likewise with passengers departing Australia although he might have been one of those recorded just with a first initial.

Have you tried to find anything in the NZ records for Emma or Stephen Barclay?

That Birth entry will haunt me for a while I reckon as it is the only one that is anything like a close match for Stephen Glasson.

CT

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Morning CT

Not yet for Emma and Stephen Barclay, but I will get to it soon.

The birth entry for Alice Gwendoline Glasson in 1903 tells the same story - the informant this time is the mother Minnie - she states that Stephen was born in Bridgewater, Victoria, the birth of Gwendoline is very late in 1903 and in the record Stephens age is given as 35 - making it 1868.

Lannanta

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CT

No luck with the Barclays.

But in "Papers Past" I found Stephen Glasson in Makarewa in 1887 getting a section.

Then in the Otautau paper there was a J. and a H. Glasson around 1910 or so - things are hotting up

Lannanta

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Keep digging mate, there has to be more information about him somewhere.

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CT

You said that you looked at passengers leaving Oz for NZ - did you look as early as say 1880 to 1887 - looking for a S, J or H Glasson heading to southern NZ?

Lannanta

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Actually I dont think I searched by dates but rather just the name.

It may be easier if you were to have a look for yourself given it allows for more dynamic thinking as you search.

Here is the link for the PRO Victoria site -

www.access.prov.vic.gov.au/public/component/daPublicBaseContainer?component=daAccess&componentLabel=Access the Collection&breadcrumbPath=Home/Access the Collection

Click on the link for PROV's digitised records and online indexes

From there you will see three links for Passenger Lists at the top of the page. So just click on the third one for 'Index to Outward Passengers ....'

You may need to try some variations of the name but start with Glasson and use dates if you wish.
If you look under the column for 'Destination' you will find several variations for NZ - New Zealand, NZ Ports, Otago etc.
Unfortunately many of the names are entered as 'Mr', 'Mrs', and many without an initial so you might need to try and match certain items to try and locate what you want.

At least with this link you will be able to take your time and play around a little.

CT

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CT

Very useful list that - I would love to see a similar format for here.

I believe that he is the S. Glasson heading here via Hobart in 1883 on the Rotomahana, the only down side is that his age was given as "A".

So now I have three sources at least that say he was a Glasson, he was born in Victoria, and to be confirmed that his parents were John and Emily. I wonder what the percentage was of births unregistered at that time in our history because that and illegitimacy appears now to be the obvious answer.

Lannanta

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Hmmm - I think "A" meant Adult but I am not quite sure what age constituted an Adult back then. If it was 15 then you might have him.

You have the Ship's name so have you tried a seach using that to see what other passengers were aboard?

CT

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CT

That will be my next job - just need a bit of spare time at the moment....

Lannanta

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Hello CT

I see that you are very busy but I will post this information just in case anybody else still has an interest.

I am sure that Emily Birchall must be correct and I am also sure that her name came from the marriage entry for Stephen and Minnie.

Interesting that with the reference to Emily Birchall in one of the children's names that there is no reference to a John Glasson - makes me wonder if there is an error in who Stephen's father may be.

There is an error

Stephen Glasson, on his marriage certificate, said that he was 35 years of age - and as he was married in November 1903 he is suggesting that he was born in 1868.

He says that his mother is Emily Glasson, nee Birchall, suggesting that there is a marriage somewhere - and her name is used in the make up of daughter Mabel's name as we know.

But we need to look to the son - Norman Joseph Glasson for a clue as to who Stephen's father was. The marriage certificate states that the father of the groom is Joseph Glasson, a labourer - not John.

At the moment a quick review of my available data has not identified Joseph any more that it did John.

Lannanta

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Ah-ha - one step forward...

and then back!!

Sue

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Hi Sue

I have a couple of Cornish Josephs that he could be, but I am not even sure he is Cornish.

I need the marriage and I am not sure where to look at the moment.

Lannanta

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Lannanta - nice to know an error has been corrected but unfortunately it appears to give us exactly the same as we had before ...... Nothing!

Nothing that looks like a remote possibility in England or Australia I'm afraid.

CT

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Morning CT

Yep, that is pretty much how I see it as well - out of the pot and into the fire - but the good thing to know is they are somewhere and I think that finding Emily, either dying or remarrying will be the next step - or should I say attempting to ;D

Lannanta

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Well I can take Victoria out of the equation for you. The only Emily Glasson appearing from the Early Church Records through the Pioneers Index and right up to the 1980s is an Emily Glasson who died in 1956 at the age of 82.
Her parents were recorded as John and Emma HILLARD and a check of the Federation Index shows that she married Alfred Thomas Glasson at Camperdown in 1896.

Over to you old mate.