Robert Michell Glasson

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CT

During my work I have twice come across Mi(t)chells with the forenames Robert Glasson. The latter one (born c 1843 in St Agnes near Truro) I have a home for.

But there was a second one born around 1814/15 in Marazion, son of Richard MICHELL and Elizabeth ROOKE. There is a very good web site which details his genealogical life (Devon Mitchells) but goes no further back that Richard and Elizabeth.

I was curious before I got too involved if you had this man, Robert Glasson MICHELL in your database?

At first guess I would be looking at a link with Robert Glasson and Susannah MICHELL around the mid 1700s in Crowan and the surroiunding areas.

Lannanta

[cornishglassons]

Hi Lannanta,

Have you noticed that it is nearly always the ROBERT Glassons that are confusing? The Williams, the Richards, the Johns they're easy to fit into the Glasson trees, but if you named a son Robert they were bound to cause difficulties for future generations!

Seriously though, I have no knowledge of this one but yes it does seem very possible there is a link between the Crowan Robert Glasson and Susannah Michell of Crowan. I know Robert and Susannah had a daughter Elizabeth and at first wondered if she could be the Elizabeth Rooke (first marriage) who later had a second marriage to a Michell (cousin?). But of course this would be too easy and anyway she married Reginald Thomas.

As you know the family so often give Glasson as a middle name to a grandson, so I would think it likely that the mother of Richard Michell or Elizabeth Rooke was a Glasson. I'll have a look over the weekend and check the website you mention.

Do we know what occupation Richard Michell was? That often gives a clue as to which branch of the Glassons they could belong.

I'll look forward to the answers on this one!

Best wishes,
Carole

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Carole

A man of many talents I believe - farming and later in life many interests in the mining industry. I also noted that he served as a JP in one of the sessions.

Lannanta

[Cornish Terrier]

Well Lannanta and Carole I think there is one thing we need to sort out before anything else with this fella!

Is he the son of Richard and Elizabeth?

Or is he the son of Richard and Elizabeth?

From the looks of the St Hilary and Marazion Baptism Indexes I would say there are almost certainly two couples involved here!

There was Richard Michell the 'tailor' with wife Elizabeth and then there was Richard Michell the 'carpenter' also with wife Elizabeth and both baptising children at the same time at Marazion! ;D

I will see if I can sort the pair of them out tonight.

BTW - Robert Glasson Michell was the son of Richard the tailor.

CT

[Cornish Terrier]

Lannanta and Carole - I did not get much time to look at this last night but I did find a couple of things.

I did mention that there were two Richard Mi(t)chells, each with Elizabeth as his wife, baptising children at Marazion around the same time.

One of these was a 'tailor' by trade and the other a 'carpenter' which does not quite fit with the following:-

Do we know what occupation Richard Michell was? That often gives a clue as to which branch of the Glassons they could belong.

A man of many talents I believe - farming and later in life many interests in the mining industry. I also noted that he served as a JP in one of the sessions.

Richard Mitchell and Elizabeth Rook were married at Piccadilly St James, Westminster 7th November 1809 by Banns.

After a search for the children it certainly appears now that these were indeed the parents of Robert Glasson Mitchell who was baptised at Marazion 23rd November 1814.

Except for the first two children, Richard Rooke 1811 and Ann 1812, where the occupation was not recorded the baptisms of all children of Richard and Elizabeth Mitchell/Michell show that Richard was a 'taylor'.

And in the 1841 Census Richard was at Marazion, age 50, birthplace 'in County' and occupation still a 'tailor'.

By 1851 Richard had died and Elizabeth with two unmarried daughters was living with here widowed eldest son Richard Rooke Michell and his daughter at East Cliff Cottage, Marazion.

A Richard Michell age 60 was buried at Marazion 13th January 1845.

It is interesting that the marriage took place in London with Richard having been born in Cornwall and the 1851 Census now indicating that Elizabeth Rook was born at Probus.

BTW - I believe there may be some misleading information out there.
In 1851 Richard Rooke Michell was 'Cashier and Manager of Tin and Copper Mines' so I suspect it may have been he who was later a JP.

Let's see what more I can find.

CT

[Cornish Terrier]

Elizabeh Rook was baptised at Probus 29th April 1787 daughter of Thomas Rook of Probus and Ann Griffing who were married at Creed 4th August 1781.

Information from FamilySearch (baptism) and OPC (marriage).

I am not yet able to determine where Richard Mi(t)chell belongs but his age at death indicates a birth about 1784.

The blighter was inconsiderate on two counts - 1. he got married in London and 2. he died before the 1851 Census so we have nothing to indicate a possible birthplace other than the 1841 Census which shows he was born in Cornwall.

And at this point I think I might hand it back to you.

CT

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CT

One of these was a 'tailor' by trade and the other a 'carpenter' which does not quite fit with the following:-

My mistake - I was actually talking about Robert Glasson Michell I think.

Lannanta

[Cornish Terrier]

No problem Lannanta.

There does not seem to be a lot to go on in the way of helping identify Richard Michell.
There are really only a couple that are good matches based on age but there is nothing in the names of the children to really be of much help.

The one name of interest is for his daughter Tryphena Lane Michell but even that proves less than helpful.

If you search for Tryphena Lane you will find no more than a very small few who seem to all be from Somerset.
As Thomas Rook appears to be from outside Cornwall I would think that any connection to Tryphena Lane would be from his side of the family.

CT

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Morning CT

I certainly agree with you and the proposed difficulties. I am not that keen to spend any time on him at the moment, even if it might have identified a past marriage.

I do have a much more interesting puzzle concerning a certain Joseph Glasson who drowned in the river Thames and left a family in Woolwich, Kent who I cannot get my head around yet.

Lannanta

[Cornish Terrier]

Well, you just make yourself comfortable on the couch and tell me all about it! ;D