Anne White Warren

[hockingkin]

I am looking for information on Anne White Warren. The only info I have is she was born 2-18-1787 in St. Just. Married William Hocking on 12-26-1807. They had several children (13) beginning in 1808. One of the children was Thomas Henry Hocking born 9-18-1825. Thomas Henry was my ggggrandfather. Thanks for any and all assistance

Donna

[white]

Hi Donna,
Have had a look at your entry and find that Ann (White) Warren was bapt. at St.Just in Roseland. This is a fair way from West Penwith and may need rechecking.
I will look out for your reply as my line is White of St.Just (Penwith) and I was hoping to be able to help there.
Roy

[Cornish Terrier]

Donna - please post more information if you have it and I will try to help also.

I have just checked the Online Parish Register and Online Parish Clerk sites and there is little available for St Just in Roseland and the moment from what I can see.

Let's work on it and we will see what we can do for you.

Ian

[hockingkin]

Hi Roy and Ian,

My information shows Anne White Warren born in St. Just in Penwith. She married William Hocking in Madron, Cornwall in 1807. She died i4-28-1863 in Madron and is buried in Heamoor Wesleyan Churchyard in Madron. I have no information on her parents or others down the line.

Donna

[Cornish Terrier]

Donna - been doing a bit of work on your problem so let's take a look at a few things to ensure I have the right people.

1861 Census, Chyandour, Penzance

William Hocking, head, mar, 74, labourer, St Paul
Ann do., wife, mar, 73, St Just
Susan do., daur, unm, 29, Penzance
Sarah J. do., grandaur, 6, scholar, Madron

1851 Census, Chyandour

William Hocking, head, mar, 64, farm labourer, Paul
Ann do., wife, mar, 63, St Just
Edward do., son, unm, 21, farmer, Penzance
Samuel do., son, unm, 21, farmer, Penzance
Susan do., daur, unm, 19, Penzance

1841 Census, Coomb(?), Madron

Wm Hocking, 56, ag lab
Ann do., 50
Fras do., 20, blacksmith
Mary do., 15
Jos do., 15
Saml do., 12
Edwd do., 12
Susan do., 10

(I am wondering if 'Jos' was meant to be Thomas?)

Also found the following baptisms at Madron:-

Margery Hocken bp. 23rd October 1808
John Hocken bp. 4th February 1810
Francis Hocking bp. 22nd March 1818 (of Tregavarah)
Mary Ann Hockin bp. 31st March 1822 (of Tregavarah)
Thomas Henry Hocken bp. 18th September 1825 (of Tregavarah)
Edward Hocking bp. 8th November 1829 (of Penzance)
Samuel Hocking bp. 8th November 1829 (of Penzance)
Susan Hocking bp. 10th October 1831 (of Penzance)

If this is the correct family, as it appears to be, then I need to search for the baptisms of five further children.

I cannot find a burial record for Anne at Madron and my Penzance records only go up until 1844.

Now for a search for Anne's baptism.

Roy was quite correct in his message as the IGI records show that the Ann Warren baptised 18th February 1787 was indeed at St Just in Roseland which indicates you have possibly been given some incorrect information. (She was the illegitimate daughter of Elizabeth Warren.)

The only candidates we have (from IGI) that are anywhere close would be:-

Ann Warren bp. 8th March 1785 St Just in Penwith d/o John and Patience

Anne Warren bp. 14th September 1788 St Buryan d/o William and Johanna

Ann Warren bp. 16th September 1790 St Just in Penwith d/o Richard and Susanna

Ann Warren bp. 29th May 1791 St Just in Penwith d/o William and Eliz.

The only William Hocking baptised at Paul between 1781 and 1791:-

William HOCKIN bp. 16th March 1788 Paul s/o John and Anne

Others in the right time-frame and general area:-

William HOCKIN bp. 11th April 1784 St Just in Penwith s/o Simon and Jane

Warren marriages that are possibilities:-

William Warren m. Susanna Olivey (of Madron) 8th April 1776 St Just in Penwith

Edward Warren m. Anne Peake 17th August 1782 St Just in Penwith

William Warren m. Elizabeth John 31st May 1784 St Just in Penwith

Other than that I am having no luck without searching through every Marriage Register for which I have a transcript.

It is still 'possible' that the 1787 baptism at St Just in Roseland is the correct one.

But, if so, we would then need to identify Elizabeth Warren.

She may have been in that area with relatives for the birth of her child and it does still explain Anne naming her birthplace as St Just in the Census.

Best I can just for now.

Ian

[hockingkin]

Hi Ian,

Many thanks for all your hard work. The Hocking family info looks right. William bp in 1788 s/o John and Anne fits. His mother was Anne Cattran.

I have conflicting info re: Anne White Warren. The Anne Warren bp 9-14-1788 is a possibility. Some info I was given has her born 1787 and others have her born 1788. The 1788 matches the ages on the census reports. I also think St. Buryan is closer to the area around Paul than St. Just in Roseland.

Many Thanks

Donna

[Cornish Terrier]

You are welcome Donna.

So William would have been a younger son of John HOCKIN, butcher, who married Anne CATTRAN at Paul 22nd April 1776

And I agree that the St Buryan baptism for Anne White Warren is the more likely.

However, we need to first ascertain the origins of the name WHITE in her name before we can be sure.

I will try to check some more as I get the chance but maybe you could also do some checking if you have the resources available.

Will keep looking back on this and see what I can come up with.

For now have to keep catching up on things and, over the next few days, try to get a lot of stuff unpacked and get this new residence sorted out.

Ian

[hockingkin]

Hi Ian,

Thanks again. Iknow moving can be a big chore. We have moved a lot and I have been known to find a box still unpacked from a former move.

I have no information for Anne White Warren except her name and the fact she married William Hocking. Where her middle name comes from is a mystery. Possibly a family name or mothers maiden name? Enjoy your new home

Donna

[Cornish Terrier]

Hi Donna,
I have nothing new right now but will keep coming back to this in the hope that I might come up with a 'brilliant idea'.

There must be some information somewhere - just a matter of finding it.

Ian

[sueking]

Hi all Hocking family. I am Sue King and I live in Hastings Victoria Australia. I am travelling to Cornwall in September and would love to find LIVING Hockings in that area. Is there any one there can help me?

[sueking]

Hello to all Hocking decendants. I have traced my line of Hockings back through John Hocking, son of William and Ann White Warren.
Re Hockings: I live in Australia and have taken a keener interest in this line since finding this great web site. As stated ealier I am looking for LIVING relatives still in Cornwall. Most people seem to want to find the past lines (as we all do) but to find members of our family still in Cornwall would be just as interesting. Can any one help me?
With hope...Sue King

[Cornish Terrier]

HI Sue and welcome aboard.
How is Hastings these days? - I used to live at Pearcedale, just up the road a piece.

Not sure of the best way to help you at the moment as the last time I was in Cornwall was 1995.

If you ventured into just about any Pub around the Land's End area I am sure you would find someone soon enough who was familiar with some of the Hocking clan.

But it would perhaps be better to locate someone before you get there.

Let's begin with what you know of the family as all I have at the moment is a list of eight children for William and Anne White Hocking with your John being the second child and eldest son.

You obviously would know more about descendants of John but perhaps you have also worked on descendants of his siblings.

When and how many of this family, particularly the sons, left Cornwall.

If we can track the sons, John, Francis, Thams Henry, Edward and Samuel as far as the 1901 Census we may then be able to establish the best place to start looking for modern day descendants.

With the help of some of our Cornish-based members it may not prove too difficult to find someone you are actually related to.

If you can help me out with some information I will try and work the family forward to 1901 and see what turns up.

Lots of Luck.

[sueking]

Thank you for your reply re living Hockings. I am a direct descendant of John Hocking who married Elizabeth Bennett in 1832 in Cambourne. My great grand mother was Josepha Hocking ( the youngest of the children of John and Elizabeth) who in turn married John Bevan Thomas in 1866 in Castlemaine Victoria. There is a very comprhensive family tree available at wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=hockii&id=I3972
for any one interested in this line.
I have only traced direct family lines and not really had the time or chance to do ery much on other lines. I originally created my family history pre internet usage. All typed on a typewriter. Sounds pre-historic now! I am hoping to find lots of tombstones to photograph as well as living family during my short stay in Cornwall.
Thanks for your repl
Sue