Hi folks, spotted this forum whilst searching for another Thomas Prisk, and joined up. It would be well worth reading a 19cen book called "Walks About St Hilary" it is available at the Cornish studies library, but alterativly and quicker by googling the title as its available as a searchable e book, It gives a good insight into life in St Hilary in the mid 19 cen' and mentions poor one legged Jenny Prisk (nee Hosking) and her sons etc, I wont say any more, don't want to spoil your fun. Good hunting. Dave.
Her age in the Census is definitely recorded as 73 (1851) so I would be looking about 1777 and I would be taking into account the fact that one of the witnesses to her marriage was George Guy. Looks like she was buried at St Hilary 23rd*May 1856 age 76 of Pz Union Workhouse * Back to the 1851 Census – it is not easy to read but her birthplace ‘looks like’ St Ives. But Guy is a name more from Madron or St Just and not at all common around St Ives. In fact from 1730-1840 there is but one Guy baptism at St Ives and that was the son of Robert Guy of the Somersetshire Militia in 1798! * I have been unable to find Thomas and Elizabeth in the 1841 Census so there is no way at the moment to get any idea of what her age might have been from that. * But it would be almost worth a little wager on this one:- * Elizabeth d/o George and Mary Guy bp. 16th*January 1774 at St Just *
*William Harris and Jane Guy were married at St Hilary 4th*February 1797 ( image 89) Thomas Prisk and Elizabeth Guy were married at St Hilary 4th*March 1807 (image 111) * In both cases one of the witnesses was a George Guy compare the signatures with that of *George Guy of St Just who married Mary Rowe in 1760. * There are only two known children to Thomas and Elizabeth Prisk and at this point no baptism has been found for son William who was born around 1810. A marriage in 1807 followed by only two children indicates the possibility of a late marriage. The other option of course is an early grave but in this case we know Elizabeth was still alive in 1851 so the late marriage is more likely. That gives us the possibility of the 1774 baptism.
George Guy of St Just married Mary Rowe at St Buryan 24th*June 1760 – so in all likelihood both were born before 1742. * Between 1700 and 1745 FamilySearch shows 9 baptisms for George Guy in Cornwall. I know there were at least four children to the above marriage up to 1774 so I think a few can be eliminated because they are a little early (1711 Madron, 1714 Egloshayle, 1706 Helston). Also eliminated one at Redruth in 1726 who died as an infant and one at Endellion in 1728 because of proximity. And then I will take out John George Guy at Redruth in 1727. And that leaves three:- * George bp. 1st*February 1721 St Just son of Abraham – (died 1835) George bp. 24th*April 1731 St Just son of Richard and Sabina George bp. 29th*July 1738 St Just son of Abraham * It is complicated a little because of another George Guy marriage at St Just so I will simply leave these as options for now. * The children of George and Mary:- George bp. 2nd*November 1761 St Just Mary bp. 1st*November 1763 St Just Jane bp. 9th*November 1766 St Just Elizabeth bp. 16th*January 1774 St Just * It should be pointed out that there was an Elizabeth Guy baptised at Madron in 1778. She was daughter of John and Elizabeth Guy and had a brother George who lived only a year. She also had an uncle George baptised in 1754 but I think he marriage at Penzance around 1780 and remained there. And there was just one other Jane/Jennifer Guy who might have married William Harris. She was also baptised at St Just daughter of another George but her mother was recorded as Elizabeth. That is another problem as there appears to be no marriage prior to 1792 for a George Guy to Elizabeth. Further confusing matters is that on the same day George son of George and Grace Guy was baptised at St Just. * But I think what follows here will help sort out who we should be looking at. We know that William Harris married Jane Guy at St Hilary and we know that Thomas Prisk married Elizabeth Guy at St Hilary with a George Guy witnessing both marriages. * Now, the CFHS transcript records absolutely no Guy baptisms at St Hilary which suggests that these two girls must have been from elsewhere and evidence so far indicates that they almost certainly came from St Just. * Enter St Hilary Burials!*J * Mary Guy age 45 buried 13th*April 1783 St Hilary – tabe Phyllis Guy of Marazion age 28 buried 25th*Marich 1823 St Hilary – don’t know who she is George Guy of Tregurtha age 87 buried 20th*February 1823 St Hilary * Mary’s age suggests she was born around 1737 which would be a nice fit for the 1760 marriage to George Guy at St Just. The marriage record tells us she was of St Buryan *and we have two and possibly three baptised at St Buryan from 1737-1740. George Guy would have been born about 1735 if his age is accurate and that makes him just about perfect to have been the husband of Mary Row although not actually identifying him from the above candidates. * That then suggests that the two girls, Jane and Elizabeth, would most likely be their daughters which therefore solves the problem of the identity of the wife of Thomas Prisk. * Elizabeth bp. 16th*January 1774 St Just d/o George and Mary *
Post by Cornish Terrier on Feb 11, 2012 14:45:49 GMT -5
Londoner - many thanks for posting that for me.
There is one thing I neglected to point out about the George Guy who witnessed the marriages of Jane to William Harris and Elizabeth to Thomas Prisk at St Hilary.
His signiature on both marriage records was identical which means it was the same person in each case and that then suggests that he was either the brother of Jane and Elizabeth or their father. I have not been able to locate the brother but the signiatures also bear some resemblance to that of George Guy when he married Mary Row at St Buryan in 1760.