Post by Glazin2018 on Jul 29, 2020 16:50:59 GMT -5
Thank you for that information Ian and also to Zibetha for the offer of a look up.
Essentially now I believe there were only two Janes - Jane ROWE (c1820 - 1869) and Jane MILLS nee WARNER (c1830 - 1905). I originally considered three because of the delay in the first child following the marriage in 1845 but I now realise that there are a number of reasons why that could have been.
I think that James and Jane ROWE had six children who lived to adulthood and who are mentioned in the will of James GLASSON in 1900 at Hazel Green. I have seen the marriage records now for five of them and only one records the wife of James Glasson senior as Jane ROWE. This is them: Harriet Glasson - James Glasson / Jane Glasson Margaret Glasson - James Glasson / ------ James W Glasson - James Glasson / Jane ROWE John Glasson - not sighted Richard Glasson - James Glasson / Jane ---- Benjamin Glasson - James Glasson / Margaret ROWE
The only other child of James Glasson senior was Milton Warner Glasson and his marriage details show: Milton Warner Glasson - James Glasson / Jane MILLS.
So I am interested in a possible marriage of John Glasson and if he married what details are recorded on his marriage entry. I am also interested in the marriage of James Glasson senior to Jane MILLS to see if there is any additional information not trasncribed at FamilySearch.
I don't know what will be available given the current Corona crisis. Time will tell. I am willing to help out as I can. My local library is issuing books for pickup and has a lot available online. I will have to check out Wisconsin. There is a really great Historical Society at the U of WI and I have as a bonus a sister with a library card.
Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 30, 2020 4:54:30 GMT -5
I did not see any marriage for a John Glasson that indicated he might be part of this family. The options are 1. that he did not marry 2. that he married somewhere other than the Hazel Green area 3. the marriage record has not been transcribed by FamilySearch as yet or 4. that he died young in which case I have not yet found him.
I was not able to find any useful records for Wisconsin on Ancestry which is a shame as I also have some Trewhella connections in Wisconsin.
I did find the indexed marriage of Jane Warner and James Mill(s) Jan 11, 1849 in Lafayette County, Wisconsin. I've found 5 children for them so far; with the youngest,Joseph, named after Jane's father. Her sister Mary Ann Warner named on of her sons Joseph Warner Webb. James Mill was the man buried in 1863 and Jane was buried in Shullsburg, too. It appears their son Matthew was the one who married Margaret Jane Glasson who would have been his stepsister. Her name appears in full on some of her children's records in the State of Iowa. She seems to have used just "Jane" on the Census forms.
I'm not sure why, but Jane's name appeared as "Margaret Jane Waruen" on Matthew Henry Mill's 1946 Iowa death certificate. The informant appears to have been his son Benjamin Mill, if I have interpreted the signature correctly. So he may have guessed re: his grandmother's name or provided his own mother's name in error.
The trouble with Wisconsin records (when they exist!) is that the State passed a law that they cannot be displayed online.
Yes I have spent some time looking for John as well and I have not found him. So I am pretty confident that I have the correct two wives for James.
Interesting that while I was looking for John I found two others in particular that I had not caught up with before in the USA. Of note was John (c1849) from Gwinear, son of John and Christian nee ROWE. What was mind blowing was the number of Public Trees with young John being said to be the son of Thomas and Emma - and yet on FamilySearch it clearly states his parents were John and Christian.
Last Edit: Aug 3, 2020 1:27:25 GMT -5 by Glazin2018
If there had been anywhere other than Wisconsin for bachelor farmer John to go had he ventured off from his brother's household, I would first suspect Iowa as a number of the family went there. But I can't find him there either. Let me back up. Wife of Richard was a Coatsworth. They can be found in Iowa with her mother Fanny, and later "Lizzie" Coatsworth (not Watsworth) Glasson joins her sister Rachel and husband in 1930 (Wife of George Fiske.) I would think the family went there for farmlands.
I agree that James had two wives and the suggestion of a possible interim marriage comes in from a newspaper index, and is what we call "bogus" on my turf. It makes no sense.
Will re-read your last as so far (sadly perhaps) I am not a Glasson but do see marriages within our families. Who knows?
I've been reviewing my worksheets where I plotted out some of the Glasson family (particularly the people in the Crowan/Gwinear area)and am wondering if the Richard Glasson husband of Margaret Rowe under discussion was the man who was the adopted grandson of Charles Glasson? I must have noted that from a prior thread on this board.
Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 4, 2020 6:08:43 GMT -5
wondering if the Richard Glasson husband of Margaret Rowe under discussion was the man who was the adopted grandson of Charles Glasson?
As I have it Richard Glasson was the base son of Anne Simons baptised at Camborne 21st September 1783. I have the father as John Glasson (12th August 1759 Camborne) son of Charles Glasson and Elizabeth Uren.
In his Will of 1799 Charles Glasson names his wife as Elizabeth and leaves, amongst others, bequests to grandsons John and Charles who were sons of his son John. And then .....
Fourthly it is my Will that my adopted Grandson Richard Glasson whose Mother is Anne Simons shall be Carefully provided for Maintained and Educated and have proper pocket money out of the Rents and profits of my aforesaid premises until he is Twenty one years of age Also he is to have my Watch and Silver shoe Buckles.
Richard Glasson was buried at Camborne 5th November 1823 age 41.
Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 5, 2020 9:12:40 GMT -5
Hi Zib - I have not tried to identify Ann Simons as yet but I have done a bit of work interacting with Lannanta on the Glassons over the years so if you need anything on that line I may be of some help. Lannanta is the primary expert of course!
My focus at the moment is on the descendants of John and Honour Glasson from Madron as that is my line ... but that conversation belongs in other threads.