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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 27, 2011 6:24:03 GMT -5
Thanks Poppy, I will look forward to viewing them. Have you made any follow-ups on the South African information about a James Eddy in 1924? If not then it would probably be a good idea to try and find out more about this record. Let me know and will try and get in touch with one or two people in South Africa to see iff anyone is able to go to the Archives and have a look at the documents. No promises as I usually find that the information I want is in someone else's territory. But I can try. CT
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Post by poppy on May 27, 2011 6:47:30 GMT -5
Hi CT,
I assumed that the marriage cert for James Eddy and Elizabeth Jane Oates ruled that one out as he was too young to be my James...and that it was his death in SA in 1924. I know that we shouldn't assume ;D
My SA relations didn't re-search their own Tree and have asked me to show them how when they come over in September...so no joy there with any help.
So I would appreciate any idea's you have.
Poppy
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Post by poppy on May 27, 2011 12:03:17 GMT -5
A very helpful person found the Quick family in Wales for me. 1891 Swansea....... under their initials only RG12/4483 F53 P35
1901 Radnorshire RG13/5186 F26 P43 Florence is a visitor with the Wilkins family, with one of hers sons.
One of the children was born in Sydney Australia 1883.
So that leaves James Eddy and Sarah Jane Hoskings as being the other couple on the page, as I had hoped.
Poppy
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 27, 2011 15:48:39 GMT -5
Hi Poppy - and I just received some information for 1911 that also confirms Charles Hichens Quick married Florence Elizabeth Dennis thus leaving James Eddy to marry Sarah Jane Hosking. Sounds like you have some 'eddycatin' to do! ;D And I now need to try and get in touch with some of my old contacts and see if we can get any details of that 1924 event to find out just who it is. CT
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Post by poppy on May 28, 2011 5:13:07 GMT -5
Hi CT,
I will order the marriage cert for 1882 now in the hope of it being my James Eddy. No point in ordering the Admin, as apparently there isn't any more infomation on it than we see on line.
I have given up on my William Trembath Eddy now, as feel he lived and died in SA, but without using his middle name on documents it would be hard to prove which one he is anyway.
Will up-date you when cert arrives,
Regards, Poppy
Modified to read 1882
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 28, 2011 9:14:38 GMT -5
Poppy - Sean Connery quit the James Bond series after making You Only Live Twice and was never going to play the part again. George Lazenby, an Australian, played Bond in the next film On Her Majesty's Secret Service and then Connery was convinced to return and make Diamonds Are Forever in 1971. This time - NEVER AGAIN! Roger Moore took over the role for several films culminating in A View To A Kill which was made in 1983. That same year, 12 years later, Sean Connery made another film - NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN in which he starred as ...... JAMES BOND! ;D Your William Trembath Eddy went to South Africa from where information is difficult to find and obtain but that does not mean that the information does not exist or cannot be found! People gave up on Sean Connery ever playing the part of James Bond again - but he did ............. TWICE! So DON'T GIVE UP on your William Trembath Eddy. Generally speaking the South African records seem to be very good so it really is just a matter of tracking down what you want. Rootsweb has several South African Mailing Lists which are free to join so it might be worth your time and effort to look into that possibility. There are people there who will help so you just need to start by asking. CT
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Post by poppy on May 28, 2011 10:15:48 GMT -5
OK, OK I won't give up ;D If I can find very recent people in my family being in the USA and Vietnam with no reason for being there, why should I not be able to find him. Thanks, I needed that push Poppy.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 28, 2011 14:39:23 GMT -5
That's the way Poppy - it gets difficult but not insurmountable!
And if it didn't get a little difficult from time to time there would be no fun in the chase! ;D
CT
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Post by poppy on Jun 4, 2011 5:46:10 GMT -5
Certificate has arrived, and is looking so good ;D ;D ;D 01/02/1882 Wesley Rock Chapel. Penzance James Eddy/35/Bac/Tin Miner/Trewellard/F:RICHARD EDDY (dec) Tin Miner. Sarah Jane Hosking/30/Spinster/Trewellard F:William Hosking (dec) ? Labourer. Witnesses John Penrose. Sarah Eddy. I can't find another James Eddy of that age, with a father called Richard Eddy who was deceased by 1882. The Witness, Sarah Eddy, could be his s-i-l, married his brother Richard . Maybe wishful thinking, but it all appears to fit. I think it's these two people I have found living apart in the 1911 and the death in 1915 is for this James.....and the Admin in 1915 payable to Sarah Jane Eddy is also his. Again it would tie in with an Admin for my gggrandfather Richard Eddy 1841-1896 being found twenty year after his death, as we know that they had Mines together in SA, possibly James hung on to the Rights for both of them. The Admin was for £2000 odd pounds, he appears to have been living on his own means for many years, but we know that his S-I-L was left very badly off after her husbands death...no wonder if he was sitting on this lot I would appreciate your comments CT as to whether you would come to the same conclusion. I will email a copy to you as usual. Poppy---- from a very warm UK, 26 degrees here to-day ;D
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jun 4, 2011 9:18:22 GMT -5
Hi Poppy - Certificate has arrived and is safely filed away with your other Eddy information - thankyou. Okay - I agree that this is most probably 'your' James but I can't guarantee that the witness was his sister-in-law. The way she signs her Christian Name on this Certificate is quite different to her signiature when she married Richard Eddy but then there is also eleven years between the two events. So now:- Sarah Jane Hosking was baptised 1st February 1852 at St Buryan daughter of William and Amelia Hosking of Boleigh William Hosking was born at St Buryan around 1814 and he married Amelia LLEWELLYN in 1842 in the Penzance R.D. Amelia was baptised at Falmouth 11th October 1821 daughter of George Llewellyn and Peggy (nee Bant). James and Sarah Jane Eddy had one child. William Hosken Eddy born St Just in 1886 and buried at Pendeen 6th July 1891 age 5 of Carnyorth. In 1891 Sarah Jane and son William were at Carnyorth with her widowed mother Amelia and brother John. CT
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Post by poppy on Jun 4, 2011 16:20:46 GMT -5
Hi CT, Thanks for your comments Unless I find another James Eddy b1846, with father Richard Eddy, I am happy to accept him as part of my family The signatures wouldn't be the same because I order the certificates from the GRO Index. This is only a hand written copy taken from the actual Parish Register, which the couple signs, and submitted ever quarter to the GRO. Now where has my William T got to, he is the only one not accounted for in this family now Poppy.
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Post by RobOats on Jun 4, 2011 16:25:26 GMT -5
Just some trivia; Amelia's sister, Charlotte, my gr-gr-grandmother (x2) married George LUGG, was widowed and married William OLDS in St Buryan. Charlotte's daughter, Mary Ann OLDS married Samuel WARREN and they emigrated to South Africa where Samuel died 1878. She married Thomas OATS in Kimberley, South Africa. Their eldest son George OATS (my grandfather) married Clara LUGG, daughter of George LUGG, who was the son of Charlotte LLEWELLIN. My research indicates that George LLEWELLIN was a seaman (1851 Census) and was probably born in Whitchurch, Shropshire. If there is connection then they had relatives in South Africa.
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Post by poppy on Jun 6, 2011 17:23:28 GMT -5
Many thanks both, Every little bit helps, as you never know what it will lead to. I thought I would have a dig around for Sarah Jane (Nee Hoskings) Eddy death, and Will. After all, she should have a Will with all that money! Poppy
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Post by tonymitch on Jun 6, 2011 17:52:29 GMT -5
Red herring specialist here...... I have an Elizabeth Hosking (b 1867) daughter of Thomas Hosking and Constance Eddy. She married John Williams Furze in 1888. They also went to S/A and John died there in 1897 (Modderfontain Boksburg Johannesburg). I believe he was involved in gold mining. There is some mystery surrounding John...He was investigated for murder just before he died.... Upon his death he left £209 - 11s - 6d. of which £5 was for 6 days unpaid salary, a Godly amount back in 1897. Following this, Elizabeth returned to Cornwall with her son (John Williams Furze b 1893) and married Richard Leggo in 1898. This might be helpful, or then again a complete red Herring.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jun 7, 2011 3:53:24 GMT -5
Tony - Any possible connection between the two Hosking families would appear to be quite some way back. Sarah Jane Hosking was the daughter of William Hosking and Amelia Llewellyn who were married in 1842. (This is either Registry Office or, more likely, a Chapel marriage) William was baptised at St Buryan 26th September 1813 son of William and Elizabeth Hosking of Trevorian. His parents were William Hosking and Elizabeth Werren who were married at St Buryan 3rd August 1811. I suspect Elizabeth is actually a Warren given Richard Warren signing as one of the witnesses. I have not yet been able to determine parentage for this William but he was buried at St Buryan 7th August 1844 at the age of 66 which places his birth about 1778. The OPC site shows two William Hoskings baptised at Sancreed in 1877 but I have looked no further at this point. Now, your Thomas Hosking (husband of Constance) was born at St Just and baptised there 21st June 1840. He was the son of James Hosking and Elizabeth of Tregeseal, St Just but I have so far been unable to determine which of two marriages in 1832 is the correct one. James Hosking married Elizabeth Nicholas 2nd February 1832 (both of the Parish) James Hosking married Elizabeth Trembath 7th April 1832 (both of the Parish) I thought the biggest clue amongst the children might have been the name EDMUND but unfortunately this was a name common in both the Nicholas and the Trembath families! However, Census records indicate that James Hosking was born at Sancreed about 1809 thus making him a cousin at very best to the grandfather of Sarah Jane Hosking. CT
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