To Arms Cornishmen! Pasties are under threat!!

[getafish460]

TO ARMS! TO ARMS! Mebyon Kernow!!
Following a report seen on Channel 5, UK television programme "The Wright Stuff" Yesterday, let all Cornishmen know that the Devonians are trying to claim the Cornish Pasty as their own.
If the Eurocrats in Brussells have anything to do with it they might well succeed, too
Yeah! so they might have been sticking that "stew" into pastry for a while, but they can't possibly call that "mulch" a Cornish Pasty! Let your voices cry out loud, and tell those who know no better, A Cornish Pasty is sacrosanct, made in Cornwall, or by a Cornishman, by royal decree from Queen Elizabeth I, following the sacrifices made by the Cornish whilst stopping the Armada!
Long live the CORNISH Pasty!! ;D
Ted.

[zibetha]

Ted,

I stand with you! We know a pasty when we eat a pasty, wherever we stand/sit/whatever.

It's so silly (not Scilly) and some of these new regulations seem to fall into the (US) category of locking the barn door after the horse got out.

I will continue to prepare and eat Cornish pasties on Tuesdays (Tuesday only because my mother liked to schedule things and I have learned better than to challenge her) and if I have to call my dinner an English empanada or a Bodmin burrito or a Cornish calzone -- it will not stop me.

Pasties forever and wherever!

Zib

[getafish460]

Pleased to have you on the barricades with me Zib.
Relieved exhale, but still guarded!
I've just read in the Sun Newspaper (dated yesterday 23rd) that the EU stand ready to ratify what they call the "Protected Geographical Indication" on Cornish Pasties. If it all goes ahead then Cornish Pasties will fall under the same EU protection as Champagne, Parma Ham, Arbroath Smokies, etc. So the Devonian's can call their slop in pastry whatever they like but they can't call it a Cornish Pasty!!
Hurrah!!! Victory is within grasp!
Ted

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As we say in the U.S., Devonian's can eat cake, my a gar Kernewek pasti!

[donne]

Give credit where credit's due! The Brussels bureaucrats have now accorded Protected Geographical Indication status to the Cornish Pasty. From mid March, anything which calls itself a Cornish Pasty has to be prepared in Cornwall (but could be baked elsewhere). There are a number of other things specified which the true Cornish Pasty should have. One of these is the D-shape and crimped along the side. I must admit that mother (who hailed from East Cornwall) always baked pasties which were crimped along the top.

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donne,

My grandmother and mom always made 'D' shaped pasty's, crimped along the side. However,

when I was in St. Just, I bought a pasty from a vendor and it was crimped along the top.

It wasn't as good as mom's ... they even put GROUND BEEF it it!

[tonymitch]

HEY....just returnd from our local Farm Shop. It's excellent, bit expensive and frequented by middle class 'Yuppies'. Saw a man eating a Cornish Pasty and thought about purchasing one myself.
Went to the meat counter and spotted them....."GENUINE HOME MADE WELSH PASTIES"...... ;D

Spoke to the lass behind the counter and she told me that they were no longer able to sell them as Cornish Pasties due to a "STUPID E.U. RULING". She added, "I mean, a pasty is a pasty wherever you make it"

Unfortunately, I was too much of a coward to answer her back.....CHICKEN!!!!!!

[zibetha]

So, did you buy a "geniune Welsh pasty" or walk away?

[tonymitch]

Had middle class yuppy soup. .....What's this about being crimped along the side. Can't hold a pasty by the crimped bit if it's on the side!

[donne]

In one of his many books on Cornish customs, A. K. Hamilton Jenkin maintains that traditional Cornish pastry was always of a fairly 'leaden' variety. He recounts the tale of a miner who married a cook who had previously been in service in a grand house. On coming up from the mine one day shortly afterwards his companions asked him how he had enjoyed his pasty. Came the reply, 'Aw, 'a wadn' no good at all. Time I got down fifty fathoms 'a were scat to lembs. The wans mawther made wadn' break if they'd faaled to the bottom of the shaft. They was paasties, you!'

[getafish460]

Don't the Welsh call their "pasties" "Oggies"? I work alongside a Welshman periodically and that's what he refers to them as, and apparently to be authentic Oggies they contain Lamb instead of Beef.
zown's wyrd to I, i tell ee!

[zibetha]

Right next to the sushi-- only in Minneapolis! Guess the new rules haven't reached across the Mississippi River yet.

Z

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[donne]

To be honest, I would prefer to eat a traditionally prepared pasty wherever it comes from. I've been presented with pretty dire commercial offerings even in Cornwall - greasy puff-pastry and and a filling so minced it looks as though it's been squirted in through a tube.

As for 'oggie' and 'tiddy oggie', I 've always associated that more with Plymouth and the naval dockyard at Devonport. I recall that the Devonport field gun team were often encouraged with shouts of 'oggie, oggie, oggie'!

[getafish460]

I've been greeted by some strange offerings myself. My mother, rest her soul, always referred to these as "Stew in Pastry" or "Parcels of who-knows"

[zibetha]

Midwest church ladies take on the EU??

www.ironmountaindailynews.com/page/content.detail/id/530742/Church-prepares-for-Cornish-Tea--lunch--craft-and-bake-sale.html?nav=5066

My great-greatgrandparents settled here. The historical part is kind of interesting.

And the idea of a "petite pasty" really makes me giggle.

Z