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Post by rowena on Jan 16, 2011 7:31:31 GMT -5
Hi Folks
Hi All,
I have an Edward Pascoe who married Elizabeth James Beckerleg, 10 June 1862, in Madron.
Their marriage was reported in the Cornish Telegraph, June 11, 1862: At Madron, on Tuesday, by the Rev George Scobell, Mr. Edward Pascoe, commercial traveller, to Elizabeth, daughter of Mr. Barzillai Beckerleg, baker, Penzance. Elizabeth was age 30, a spinster, and residing in Madron at the time of marriage.
Can anyone find a baptism for Elizabeth James Beckerleg c.1832?
I believe her parents were Barzillai /BarzillarBeckerleg and Catherine Mathews, married 27 Mar 1827, Madron. They were noted in the 1851 C, as a family unit.
Edward Pascoe & Eliz Beckerleg children (as given to me by a descendant) were:
- Edjeb Pascoe born and possibly died c.1861 (nothing remotely like this in FreeBMD).
- Edward Pascoe bapt. 8 Sep 1862, Penzance
- Catherine Jane Pascoe bpt. 7 May 1864, Penzance
- Elizabeth Beckerleg Pascoe bpt. 11 Jan 1871, Penzance
- William Pascoe bapt. 4 Apr 1875, Penzance.
Also:
Edward Pascoe's sister, Elizabeth Catherine Pascoe married a Barzillar Beckerleg on 20 Aug 1863, Madron. He was age 32 at time of marriage and a resident of Penzance. His father's name recorded as Bargillai Beckerleg, baker. Witnesses were B. Beckerleg and Jane P Burton (Elizabeth's married sister). Looks like the Beckerlegs marrying into the Pascoe's were brother and sister.
Are there any baptisms for this 2nd couple, Eliz Pascoe and Barzillar Beckerleg? I've not been able to find them in the Census, and have wondered if they emigrated. Or whether Barzillar died young in 1871, and Elizabeth may have remarried.
Was Barzillai Beckerleg, master baker of Penzance, who married Catherine Mathews, noted as born in Paul (1851 C), the son of James and Catherine Beckerleg?
And lastly, are there any parish burials for parents Barzillai and Catherine Beckerleg?
Any help with htis would be appreciated.
Kind regards,
Rowena
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jan 16, 2011 8:01:53 GMT -5
Rowena - I have a couple of things to catch up on and will try and have some answers for you once those are out of the way.
I certainly know the name Barzillai Beckerleg so will see what I can find.
CT
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jan 16, 2011 10:00:17 GMT -5
Rowena - part of the problem we have here is that the family was at Penzance and that is one Parish that does not have a great deal transcribed as yet. But there were a helluva lot of BDMs performed there so it will take some time. However!  Elizabeth daughter of Barzillai (baker) and Catharine Beckerleg of Penzance was baptised 16th December 1832 at Penzance (I just happen to have a few Penzance items courtesy of FamilySearch!  ) I am not sure about that middle name of James she picked up so it might be possible there is another Elizabeth baptised. But that is the only one I have been able to find for the time being. Barzillai son of Barzillai (baker) and Catharine Beckerleg of Penzance was baptised 31st October 1830 at Penzance I cannot help with the burials for Penzance unfortunately but the above gives you something anyway.  CT |
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Post by rowena on Jan 16, 2011 20:29:37 GMT -5
Thanks CT,
That's fabulous to have those baptisms, and they are now plugged into the tree. I do think Elizabeth (Pascoe ) Beckerleg married again after her husbands death in 1874. So will have a search around in the Census to see what I can find.
Thank you, Rowena
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jan 17, 2011 3:37:04 GMT -5
Rowena - sorry, but I missed the very last part of your first post regarding the baptisms of Barzillai and Catherine!  I am not sure how easy it will be to answer given there are TWO possible baptisms for Barzillai!  Barzillai son of Thomas and Catherine Beckerleg bp. 7th December 1806 Paul (3 months old) Barzillai son of James and Catherine Beckerleg bp. 15th February 1807 Paul Either of these would be a match for him being age 44 in the 1851 Census so I will need to check the names of his children to see if there are any clues. The potential parents would be:- Thomas BECKERLEG married Catherine KELYNACK 16th November 1793 Paul or James BECKERLEG married Catherine JAMES 19th August 1794 Paul In either case I think Thomas and James are brothers and most likely sons of Barzillai BECKERLEG and Margaret HEAD who married 19th October 1749 at Paul CT |
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Post by londoner on Jan 17, 2011 7:05:30 GMT -5
Is it a case of the answer is in the question? Elizabeth JAMES Beckerleg.
Also witnesses at the marriage of Barzillai and Catherine Matthews were Wm James and Thomas Beckerleg - James & Cath also had a son Thomas - so he would have been Barzillai's brother.
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Post by londoner on Jan 17, 2011 7:13:19 GMT -5
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jan 17, 2011 7:25:01 GMT -5
Exactly what I was looking for but it seems a big dark cloud formed a shroud around my brain when I add the details of the marriage of James Beckerleg to Elizabeth JAMES! And there appears to be some GWAVAS connection in that particular family.  CT |
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jan 17, 2011 7:31:57 GMT -5
Londoner - I just had a read through that thread on Brit-Gen.
Prothesia Beckerleg - crikey .... that sounds a bit nasty! ;D
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Post by cowdogsam on Jan 17, 2011 13:15:19 GMT -5
Hi Rowena
Just to add to the information CT and Londoner have given above, the OPC database shows 5 Beckerleg children born around the right time to be this family. All at Penzance St Mary Madron Chapelry
5 aug 1827 Richard Chirnham? BECKERLEG
8 mar 1829 Barzilla BECKERLEG
31 oct 1830 Barzillai BECKERLEG
16 dec 1832 Elizabeth BECKERLEG
22 feb 1835 John Matthews BECKERLEG
All have parents Barzilla & Catherine, and in each case occupation is Baker and Residence Penzance
Burials:
All at Penzace St Mary, Madron Chapelry, and Residence all at Penzance
12 aug 1829 Barzilla BECKERLEG 6 months
1 may 1835 John Matthews BECKERLEG 3 months
This one is interesting:
5 may 1826 Chimham? BECKERLEG 24 yrs
Could be related based on the middle name of Richard?
I don't have access to the originals of these records, only the transcripts online.
CT can you confirm the above information with your sources at all?
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Post by rowena on Jan 21, 2011 2:31:50 GMT -5
Thanks Gang,
Great info. I'm still digesting all these Beckerlegs - my mind's all in a twirl...
Many thanks for your help and responses. I'm back into the Pascoes' again.
Cheers, Rowena
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jan 21, 2011 7:12:41 GMT -5
Somehow I forgot to answer this one! But yes, I can verify the baptisms of the children of Barzillai and CAtherine from the Penzance St Mary PRs. I cannot verify the burials as I only have a few transcripts but they can be taken on face value until we get access to originals of those also. I would think this is Richard Chimham Beckerleg s/o James and Catherine bp. 12th June 1803 at Paul in which case he was an elder brother to Barzillai. James Beckerleg was the son of an earlier Barzillai and his wife Margaret HEAD who intern was the daughter of John HEAD and Margaret GWAVAS. This explains the appearance of the name GWAVAS amongst the siblings of Barzillai and I think you might also find that he had a son named James Gwavas Beckerleg born about 1839. Aha - James G Beckerleg age 12 appears in the 1851 Census with Barzillai and Catherine.  James married Ellen Maria Chirgwin at Madron in 1867. Now - there is something a little peculiar with the family of James and Catherine. There may be nothing in it but there is enough to make me a little curious.  Between 1795 and 1807 James and Catherine had seven kids baptised at Paul. There is then a rather large gap until the next two baptisms:- Margaret Gwavas bp. 15th March 1815 d/o James and Catherine (FISHERMAN) Arthur James bp. 15th September 1816 s/o James and Catherine (SCHOOLMASTER) This does seem more than a little odd to me but I have not yet found another marriage that might belong. (I have not looked really hard yet either!) There may be other children baptised elsewhere but I find it a little strange that James has gone from being a fisherman to all of a sudden being a Schoolmaster! And here is a nice little twist for you. Ellen Maria Chirgwin (married James Gwavas Beckerleg in 1867) is recorded in the marriage record as daughter of Richard Chirgwin, GentlemanI am not sure if this is a case of Local Boy Makes Good but ..... Ellen Maria d/o Richard CHIRGWIN, labourer and Mary was baptised 2nd December 1838 at Penzance St Mary. CT |
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