I recently had the opportunity to look at the churchwardens accounts for St Erth 1650 to 1700 (basically the collection of the poor rate and the disbursements) at the Courtney Library iin Truro. I found ancestor John Dunn holding Tremelling ('Tremellin') and later, Tregose. I know where Tremelling is - it's on the OS maps - but does anyone know were Tregose would be? I think it must be near Tremellin because other documents I've seen refer to 'Tremellin and Tregose'. Incidentally, John's brother Alexander, is listed as holding Porthcollum ('Porcollum').
Thanks for all of that. I did have a look at my copy of Gascoyne's map as CT mentioned but it isn't marked there. But I should be able to track it down with the clues you suggest. I did search the A2A catalogue and found the following at the CRO which seems to relate: "WH/1/2890 17 Dec. 1877 Contents: 10 yr. lease; rent £30. Francis Rodd of Trebartha Hall, esq., to Jn. Harvey of St. Erth, farmer. Tenement called Tregoose, near St. Erth churchtown, being several fields (about 13 acres)."
Thanks for the link to Google Maps, roadrunner. I must admit though that I could only see the road names on Googlemaps and not the farms, although they do come up on the OS Get-a-map site, as well as a place called The Old Vicarage which you mention. But it's interesting to use Google Streetview to get actual pictures of the streets and lanes in the area.
Post by copperandclay on May 6, 2014 10:02:08 GMT -5
I would suspect that the Tregose property in question was superseded by Wheal Squire in the early 1800s. I know the area well and recall discovering a ruined stone building close to the Tremelling hamlet about 20 years ago. This was fairly accessible in those days but the Tremelling properties have changed hands during the last two decades and I haven't ventured to that area since. Look up Wheal Squire the (St Erth version) on google and focus in on the google map to the mine waste tips on the Trenedros land. There is a wooded area just to the west of the most westerly tip-the ruin is (or was) within that woodland. This would fit with the Cornish translation of Tregose and the data in the censuses.
I would be interested to know if anyone thinks I'm right!
Hello Folks Re Tregoose Having been Born/lived 1933/1954 Trebartha Place St Erth. Had a good look at all census1841/1891 and it appears the Enumerators must of enjoyed walking,Ihave never heard Tregoose mentioned. But Landnuthnoe Farm and the terrace of houses below the entrance,[is this Tregoose] the farm fields werethe righthand side StErth Hill to Carnebbas/PorthcolumbLane to Tremelling Lane. and Church Street with Landnuthoe Cottage still there[ listedbuilding]. My g/parents lived in the house near the church Wall. Regards Roadrunner
I would suspect that the Tregose property in question was superseded by Wheal Squire in the early 1800s.
The tenement seems to have been in existence circa 1851, as per the census reference quoted by CT and the quote from the CRO catalogue I posted seems to indicate that it was still there in 1877. I don't know anything of the history of Wheal Squire but the documentary evidence seems to be that Tregose didn't disappear until near the end of the 19th century.