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Post by marychown on Aug 6, 2011 5:38:45 GMT -5
Thank you CT. I believe you are correct and the 24 March 1805 Fowey burial is for Jonathan Calf, Salt Officer, and the will was proved in 1812.
Thank you also Zibetha for finding the information on Jonathan Calf born 1788 in Plymouth, son of Jonathan Calf who may very well have been the son of Jonathan Calf, Salt Officer of Fowey. Presumably it was Jonathan Calf born 1788 who married Susanna Bartlett and also had a son called Jonathan Calf. It is very interesting to learn that they settled in South Africa.
All the best,
Mary
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Post by marychown on Aug 6, 2011 9:35:39 GMT -5
Hello Zibetha, I think that I can say that I now have a definite link to the two Jonathan Calfs that you found on the South Africa Settlers website. In some Admon papers dated 27 January 1812 'Bond upon the Admion of the Goodes Ye of Jonathan Calf Salt Officer deceased ...' his son Jonathan Calf, Cooper of Plymouth is one of the Administrators. This son was Jonathan Calf baptised at Gillingham, Kent on 25 Sep 1757; buried Plymouth 19 Nov 1834 aged 80. On 17 Sep 1781 Jonathan Calf Jr married Grace Haine at St Martin on Looe Bay, Cornwall and they had a daughter Mary Ann Calf baptised on 8 Oct 1782 at Princes Street Independent, Devonport. Grace Haine must have died early on in the marriage because on 1 Mar 1786 Jonathan Calf married Elizabeth Crispin at Kingsbridge, Devon. They then had a son Jonathan Calf born 1788 at Plymouth who was the Jonathan Calf who you discovered had settled in South Africa where he died aged 67 on 24 Sep 1855 and who had a son who was a major. Jonathan Calf (born 1788) married Susanna Bartlett at Stoke Damerel, Devonport on 15 Oct 1809 and it was their son Jonathan Calf born 1810 Devonshire who was a major and who died 7 March 1866 in Cape Town aged 56. I also found two newspaper articles - one in the 'Shipping Intelligence (London) of 16 Oct 1856 and the other in the 'Morning Chronicle, (London)' of 17 Oct 1856 announcing the marriage at Kennington, London of William Downward Esq to Margaret Maria Hannah daughter of Jonathan Calf Esq. of Cape Town, Cape of Good Hope. I will try to attach both these articles. Once again, many thanks for your help Kind regards, Mary Attachments:
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Post by zibetha on Aug 6, 2011 18:49:31 GMT -5
Thank you for posting the clipping, Mary.
RE: Jonathan Calf b: 1810, 1st marriage was in Paarl, West Cape, S Africa to Margaretha Maria Le Roux on November 26, 1832. He remarried a widow, Anna Catharina Areds Holtman, on February 18, 1862. He was a wine merchant.
In addition to the children listed previously, there is a mention in the South African Commercial Advertiser of the baptism of Jonathan Calf, son of Mr Jonathan Calf at St. George's Church in Capetown on March 13, 1837. May have died young?
Susannah Elizabeth married Daniel Johannes Hofmeyr and they had a son Jonathan Calf Hofmeyr born in 1851.
Johanna Elizabeth b: 1836 married John Gibb in Cape Town in 1854.
Peter Stephen b: 1842 married Elizabeth Ann Elton.
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Post by marychown on Aug 7, 2011 6:15:54 GMT -5
Very many thanks for the additional information, Zibetha. I have found the attached file on-line. Perhaps it was also the source of your information. I'm most grateful for all your assistance. All the very best, Mary Attachments:
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Post by marychown on Jan 2, 2012 5:55:28 GMT -5
Very many thanks for the additional information, Zibetha. I have found the attached file on-line. Perhaps it was also the source of your information. I'm most grateful for all your assistance. All the very best, Mary An update, Zibetha: Regarding the family of Jonathan Calf in South Africa, a little while ago I was able to make contact with descendants of this Jonathan Calf still living in Cape Town. The name Jonathan Calf is still used as a family name right up to this present day. I am also in contact with a Philip Calf (who like myself is a descendant of Philip Calf born 1759; died 1791 - a son of Jonathan Calf, Salt Officer of Fowey). Philip (Phil) Calf lives in Liverpool. I find it amazing that the families have kept the names going for nearly 300 years. A very happy New Year to you! Best wishes, Mary
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Post by zibetha on Jan 2, 2012 18:57:27 GMT -5
Mary,
What good news! And a happy New Year to you also.
It stuns me that the Internet has enlarged our connection to the world almost beyond comprehension but, at the same, time given us a tool to re-link to our families and establish personal connections that otherwise may have not been possible.
If I've blocked thing out correctly, I'd place "London Phil" as a descendant of Philip Calf and Mary Foot. You and I descend from Philip's sisters, and, though no less related, the Calf family name fades off on our female branches.
300 years is a pretty good run! As my family settled in the US, by the first or second generation, the family connection was expressed in a middle name that was the first name of a family member of a previous generation or the family name being used as a first name. After that it got pretty creative -- either from a desire to modernize or because there were too many family members with the same names!
Cheers, Zibetha
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Post by marychown on Jan 3, 2012 3:26:25 GMT -5
Hi Zibetha,
You are quite correct - the descent is via Philip Calf and Mary Foot and then through their son Francis Trannack Calf (named for father Philip's step-father and mother Rebecca's third husband John Trannack). Francis Trannack Calf (baptised at Delganey Parish, County Wicklow, Ireland on 27 May 1832 while father Philip Calf was posted there by the Coastguard Service) married Elizabeth Ann Drew (d/o Bennet Drew of Penzance) in 1858 in Liverpool. Francis Trannack Calf was a master mariner who settled in Liverpool with his family and who was lost at sea on 4 March 1887. The line then goes on through Francis and Elizabeth's son Philip John Calf (born Liverpool 1863; died Liverpool 1933).
In my own family, the family name of Calf seems to have been carried on as far as my paternal great-grandfather Benjamin Nicholls's brother Philip Calf Nicholls of Penzance (1851-1927). Philip Calf Nicholls married Joanna Richards of Newlyn at St. Peter's, Newlyn on 19 March 1873, but I have been unable to trace any of their descendants to learn whether or not the Calf family name was carried on. I believe that Philip Calf Nicholls and his wife Joanna had a son called Philip Nicholls born 1884 in Penzance whose descendants I've failed to trace and a son William Nicholls (born Penzance 1882) who likewise had a son called Philip Nicholls who was a RAF Flying Officer killed in a tragic air accident in India in 1926. My late father's mother's family was not a close one and my father knew very little about them.
All the best,
Mary
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Post by zibetha on Dec 27, 2015 19:03:40 GMT -5
Greetings, Cousin Mary! I have been looking at this group again and "doing the math." I am wondering if the late probate of Jonathan's estate had to do with the death of his wife, Anne? There is a site with transcriptions www.connorsgenealogy.com/Cornwall/FoweyRecords/Burials-B.htm (of transcriptions and I know that's not scientific, but many of my discoveries have come from following up on family stories.) Family Search kicks one to Find my Past for the burial record, so I don't have access to it, but my thought is that the Ann Calf who died in 1812 was Ann nee BUNT, and that her death resulted in the need for her husband's estate to be probated to distribute property. Would love to know what you think. Zib
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Post by marychown on Dec 28, 2015 12:09:28 GMT -5
Greetings, Cousin Mary! I have been looking at this group again and "doing the math." I am wondering if the late probate of Jonathan's estate had to do with the death of his wife, Anne? There is a site with transcriptions www.connorsgenealogy.com/Cornwall/FoweyRecords/Burials-B.htm (of transcriptions and I know that's not scientific, but many of my discoveries have come from following up on family stories.) Family Search kicks one to Find my Past for the burial record, so I don't have access to it, but my thought is that the Ann Calf who died in 1812 was Ann nee BUNT, and that her death resulted in the need for her husband's estate to be probated to distribute property. Would love to know what you think. Zib I do think you are right, Zib. Jonathan Calf's second wife Anne's burial was on 24 January 1812 and CRO holds Admon papers dated 27 January 1812 appertaining to Jonathan Calf, Salt Officer of Fowey. One of the administrators is named as Jonathan Calf, Cooper of Plymouth who was Jonathan Calf Senior's sole surviving son from his first marriage to Mary Alexander. I think I may have more information regarding the Calf family that will no doubt be of interest to you. As it will be easier to send you documents via e-mail, I shall try to send them to the e-mail address that I have for you. All the best for now, HAPPY NEW YEAR! Mary
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Post by citroenlady on Jan 2, 2017 21:24:58 GMT -5
I am extremely grateful to you for your help, CT. I am not sure whether Philip Halls who married Elizabeth Calf was a mariner. I don't think the marriage entry recorded his occupation. I have sent a message to OPC pointing out that I feel sure that it was William Calfe who married Elizabeth Marks at Lanteglos-by-Fowey on 12 Jan 1722. I will keep on trying to unravel this tangle! BTW I've sent you a pm. Regards, Mary I'm not sure where it's best to "jump in" to this thread, but I came across two Calfs - Mary A. And infant daughter Mary A. visiting my Trethowan relatives in Falmouth in the 1881 census. The husband is described as a ship's carpenter, Royal Navy. The surname is uncommon, so I felt I ought to post what I came across, just in case it's useful!
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Post by zibetha on Jan 2, 2017 22:23:18 GMT -5
Philip Charles Calf (1857-1939) married Mary Amelia Trethowan (1858-1907) in 1879, and their first child was daughter, Mary Amelia Calf who was born in 1880 and died in 1882. In 1881, "P.C." Calf was onboard the HMS Encounter. I show Mary Amelia Trethowan's parents as having been John Trethowan and Jane Benson, but I haven't researched them further. I guess I will now!
Zib
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Post by citroenlady on Jan 2, 2017 22:48:18 GMT -5
Ah - good! I do hope you didn't mind me posting that info ad lib but I felt I should mention it as the name leapt out at me (having looked at this thread!) The Trethowan marriage makes Mary A's and baby Mary A's presence there perfectly logical!
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Post by zibetha on Jan 2, 2017 23:37:10 GMT -5
No, I am glad you posted this as it is leading me to complete more connections between people already on my family tree Mary Amelia's brother was in the Royal Navy, too (as evidenced by the probate of his father's will) so he may have introduced Philip to his sister. Zib
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