Sacred to the memory of Andrew Hosking, late of Porthcullumb, in the parish of Saint Earth, and Mary his wife. The said Mary Hosking departed this life the 10 of April, 1779; aged 42. Andrew Hosking departed this life the 29 day of July, 1813; aged 78 years.
I also have a copy of his will. Son Andrew then had the farm at Porthcollum. After Andrew jnr’s demise Hugh Hosking appears as a farmer in St Erth.
I believe Hugh Hosking (Born Hugh Collick – base born son of Cathrine) was the son of Catherine Hosking. How can I confirm this?
Could Catherine have married Henry Rosewarne in 1836? William Bosustow was a witness but her death date doesn’t quite fit.
Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 16, 2010 9:54:31 GMT -5
Basically should Andrew have no 'lawfully begotten' heirs the property goes to 'daughters Ann and Catherine in equal moieties and to their several and respective heirs"
As it appears the above is a little confusing but I would assume that it actually reads similar to 'should Andrew die without 'lawfully begotten' heirs ........... '.
So - if Andrew duly dies without legitimate heirs the property falls to his sisters equally and to their heirs.
I think it is fairly clear now that Andrew did not marry and I have found no evidence of any children, legitimate or otherwise, who could claim to be heirs of Andrew.
Therefore the property fell to Ann and Catherine and their heirs.
There appears to be no provision in the Will of Andrew senior for the possibility that both daughters may also die without heirs.
That would seem to indicate either that Andrew was extremely confident (read hopeful?) or that at least one of his daughters already had a child or children.
It certainly seems that Ann married William Bosustow at the age of 44 so I would certainly not expect any children there and I can find no possible marriage for Ann before this.
Once again we are back to Catherine and the possibility that it was she who baptised a son as Hugh Collick.
Another thing to be considered here is the state of affairs when Andrew wrote his Will.
Presuming that he wrote it in 1813 then both daughters are already into their 30s - Ann was 39 and Catherine 37!
I should think it would be a very hopeful father to think that he was going to become a posthumous grandfather by either of these two!
Everything at the moment is pointing towards Hugh Collick as being, ultimately, the sole heir.
There was a marriage at Lelant in 1801 for Thomas Thomas and Catherine Hosking but I have not been able to find any children - certainly not at Lelant or St Erth.
And there was at least one other Catherine Hosking in the area who could have been involved - daughter of Henry and Blanch bp. 1775 Lelant.
The only other marriage for a Catherine Hosking I can find is in 1810 at Phillack to Edmund Uren but they were still having children at Gwinear in 1818.
The OPC site has a burial for a Catherine Hosking at Ludgvan in 1846. This Catherine was age 71 so would be a 'close' match however I cannot find any trace of her in the 1841 Census. There are certainly no signes of any children for her at Ludgvan but that is about all I know.
The only other possibility seers to be the marriage to Henry Rosewarne that you mentioned.
And you are correct that, based on the information currently available, Catherine's age when she died the next year is incorrect.
Not only incorrect but incorrect by about 10 years!
If we could get a look at the original PR entry it might be useful.
That would either prove that the age was indeed 68 or would show whether there was, or might have been, an error.
If the age was 58 or looks like there is enough doubt to show that it could have been 58 then we may have our Catherine.
The other interesting point is that Henry Roswarne appears to have been the son of Richard and Dorothy Rosewarne baptised at Gwinear 31st December 1780.
I have just a little more to do on Hugh Collick and then will post results in another note.
Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 16, 2010 11:42:59 GMT -5
For the time being I have decided to make this post simply a time-line for Hugh Collick/Hosking.
Hugh COLLICK baptised 18th January 1795 at St Erth son of Catherine
Hugh COLLICK of St Erth married Grace MOLLARD by Banns 10th October 1818 at Lelant Witnesses:- John Mollard and Robert Hampton
Henry HOSKING son of Hugh (husbandman) and Grace of St Hilary baptised 27th December 1818 at St Hilary
Henry HOCKING of St Hilary, infant, buried 17th January 1819 at St Hilary
Grace COLLICK of St Hilary, age 23, buried 3rd August 1819 at St Hilary
** Now is a good point to stop and add a couple of notes!
You will notice that there are three names involved here - COLLICK, HOSKING and HOCKING.
Some of this will become more clear as I display the next lot of information but the HOCKING name is going to be the main problem.
From experience as recent as yesterday I know full well that HOSKING and HOCKING can be very difficult to distinguish when reading old Parish Registers and you need to look extremely closely at the third letter to decide whether it is a C or an S. (And in some cases it is almost impossible to distinguish!)
But a check of possible HOCKING baptisms that might match this burial produced nothing so I am almost certain it must be the young son of Hugh and Grace.
From her age at burial Grace was born around 1795 and there are two possibilities.
As John Mollard was a witness to the marriage I think it possible that he was her father.
Grace d/o John and Joan Mollard bp. 26th December 1795 at Breage Grace d/o John and Elizabeth Mollard bp. 1st November 1795 at St Hilary
I believe the second baptism at St Hilary will be the wife of Hugh Collick.
Hugh HOSKING of St Erth, widower, married Mary Ann TRESIZE of St Erth, spinster, by Banns 14th May 1826 at St Erth Witnesses:- William Stevens and Henry Trevaskis
** Note that Hugh is now widowed and calling himself HOSKING
Henry Hosking son of Hugh HOSKING alias COLLECT? and Mary Ann of St Erth baptised 10th February 1828 at St Erth Elizabeth Trevaskis daughter of Hugh HOSKING alias COLLICK and Maryanne of St Erth baptised 2nd August 1829 at St Erth William son of Hugh HOSKING alias COLLICK and Mary Ann of St Erth baptised 19th June 1831 at St Erth John son of Hugh COLECT and Mary of St Erth baptised 4th May 1834 at St Erth Mary Jane daughter of Hugh and Mary Ann HOSKING of PORTHCOLLUMB baptised 31st December 1837 at St Erth (born 2nd February) Andrew son of Hugh and Mary HOSKING of Porthcollumb baptised 3rd November 1839 at St Erth (born 5th September) James Henry son of Hugh and Ann HOSKING of Porthcollumb baptised 17th April 1842 at St Erth (born 17th March) Edwin son of Hugh and Ann HOSKING of Porthcollumb baptised 19th January 1845 at St Erth (born 7th May 1844) Charles son of Hugh and Mary HOSKING of Porthcollumb baptised 9th January 1848 at St Erth (born 7th November 1844) Annie Louisa daughter of Hugh and Mary Ann HOSKING of Porthcollumb baptised 16th January 1854 at St Erth (born 12th October 1853)
Up until the baptism of John in 1834 Hugh was recorded as a 'labourer' but from 1837 onwards he was a 'farmer' and also notice that Porthcollumb is recorded as the abode from 1837 onwards.
Sort of just coincides with the death of Andrew Hosking!
The other thing of note is that from 1837 onwards the surname is always HOSKING but prior to 1837 it was Hosking alias Collick or, in the case of John, just Colect (Collick).
Hugh HOSKING age 74 was buried at St Erth 8th April 1870
The census should now be looked at for a comparison with the above.
1841 Census Porthcollumb, St Erth Hugh HOSKING, 40, farmer Mary do., 35 Henry do., 13 Elizabeth do., 11 William do., 9 John do., 7 Mary do., 4 Andrew do., 2
1851 Census Porthcollumb, St Erth Hugh HOSKING, head, mar., 53, farmer, St Erth Mary do., wife, mar., 43, St Erth Henry do., son, unm., 22, farmer's son, St Erth Elizabeth T do., dau., unm., 20, St Erth William do., son, 19, farmer's son, St Erth John do., son, 17, farmer's son, St Erth Mary J do., dau., 14, St Erth Andrew do., son, 11, scholar, St Erth James do., son, 9, scholar, St Erth Edwin do., son, 7, scholar, St Erth Charles do., son, 3, St Erth
In 1861 Hugh and Mary are still at Porthcollumb along with children Mary Jane, Andrew, James Henry and Charles.
Eldest son Henry was married with three children and was also living at Porthcollumb.
I will leave you to digest that lot and we can discuss conclusions afterwards.
Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 16, 2010 23:55:29 GMT -5
I have one more thing to offer!
And perhaps this might indicate the final answer.
Although recorded in the Census as a 'Village' it would seem that Porthcollumb was not a large place.
In the 1861 Census there were only four families - Hugh and Mary Hosking, Henry and Elizabeth Hosking, John and Mary Trembath, William and Mary Ralph.
Apart from the Hosking family only Mary Ralph, age 76, and Mary Susan Trembath, age 2, were born at St Erth.
In 1851 we have the family of William (born Sithney) and Eliza (born Stithians) Eva and their children of whom most were born at Wendron and only the youngest (Jane age 1 month) born at St Erth.
The next dwelling to then was Grace Hodge, an unmarried mother who had been born at St Hilary, with her three year old daughter Elizabeth born St Erth and a lodger, Elizabeth Honeychurch age 36 born St Erth.
Then came widow Mary Trevean age 49 and born St Erth.
The remaining dwelling was that of Hugh and Mary Hosking.
This shows that the only consistent inhabitants of Porthcollumb were the Hosking family.
And now (deliberately ;D) let's have a look at 1841 which is the first Census after the death of Andrew Hosking the younger.
The entire population of Porthcollumb as recorded in the 1841 Census is:-
Hugh HOSKING, 40, farmer Mary do., 35 Henry do., 13 Elizabeth do., 11 William do., 9 John do., 7 Mary do., 4 Andrew do., 2 William HARRY, 20, male servant John RULE, 15, male servant Elizth ROW, 20, female servant
Solomon NICHOLAS, 40, farmer Miria do., 40 Mary do., 15 Elizabeth do., 12 Richard do., 10 Miria do., 8 Ellen do., 6 William do., 1
Henry ROSEWARN, 60, farmer Mary do., 19 Ann LAITY, 9, grand daughter (crossed out) Elizth THOMAS, 45, femaile servant Charles KING, 20, male servant John DAVEY, 15, male servant Richd WILLIAMS, 10, male servant
I think this last one might have made your eyes light up!
Based on the known contents of the two Andrew Hosking Wills it seems logical that the Catherine Hosking who married Henry Rosewarne was the daughter of Andrew and Mary Hosking.
And that means that we need to get a look at the original Parish Register for the burial of Catherine Rosewarne in 1837 to see if it is possible an error was made regarding her age.
I was still digesting your Hugh Collick time line while you have been busy with more posts.
I don’t believe the Thomas Thomas or Edward Uren marriages were to my Catherine. Worked on that a few years back and discounted them for reasons I don’t recall but will have notes somewhere.
Your time line for Hugh is correct. I didn’t have quite as much information for Grace Mollard as you have found. I had seen the birth and death of young Henry but as he was born 10 weeks after the marriage thought he didn’t fit. Bit naïve? Could he belong to another couple?
I can only add Mary Ann died May 1897
You mention the Eva family of Wendron being at Porthcollum in 1851 (can't work out how to do the little box thing!)
Hugh’s son John married Ann Eva. She died in 1909 in Ballarat and was born in Wendron.
Thanks for your help so far.
I have seen an abstract for a will of Mary Hosking spinster of Uny Lelant in which mentions nephew - Andrew Hosking of St Erth and his 3 children - Andrew, Ann, Catherine.
Where could I get a copy of this will and would it be worth a try?
I really appreciate all you have done so far. Thanks CT