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Post by Tonkin on Feb 19, 2010 23:18:52 GMT -5
Enoch TONKIN and Constance JELBARD were married in St Levan, Cornwall on the 26 October 1766. According to my research they had six children.
1. Elizabeth bapt. 9 August 1767 St Levan.
2. Mary bapt. 9 July 1769 St Levan.
3. Richard bapt. 4 January 1772 St Levan. Married Honour GUY 26 October 1973 St Levan.
4. Ann bapt. 9 December 1773 St Levan.
5. Constance bapt. 25 August 1776 St Levan. (d. 1780)
6. Enoch bapt. 27 August 1780 St Levan. Married Sarah JOSE 14 October 1780 St Levan.
I'm trying to establish who Elizabeth, Mary and Ann married and would like to hear from anyone researching this family line.
Enoch and Constance were my 5th great grandparents.
Any help would be appreciated.
Roy ... from Down Under.
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Post by newlyn on Feb 20, 2010 7:14:35 GMT -5
Possible marriages for Elizabeth, Mary and Ann could be:
Elizabeth married James Matthew 7.7.1787 St Levan
Mary married William Jelbard 19.10.1791 Paul
Ann married William Hughes 14.10.1798 Paul
I have Ann down as being born 16.1.1774 and not 9.12.1773. Maybe one was the birth and the other the baptism.
Richard I have as being born 17.1.1772 another baptism perhaps.
All these are possibles and haven't been thoroughly checked.
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Post by white on Feb 20, 2010 8:22:50 GMT -5
Hi, according to my file Elizabeth married James Matthews 7th.july 1787 St.Levan. She buried 13th.feb 1856 St.Levan He bapt.26th.dec 1758, St.Buryan. and buried 26th.apr.1845 at St.Levan. They appear to have had 13 children. If you contact me direct I can send you details. Roy from up top
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Post by Tonkin on Feb 21, 2010 1:03:35 GMT -5
Hi there and thank you for the info. Marriage of Elizabeth and James Matthew seems to be correct, but I'm still not sure about Mary and Ann. There baptisms took place in Levan and it just seems strange they were married in Paul. But these things did happen and I will try and find out a bit more.
The dates you have for Ann and Richard are indeed birth dates. The dates I gave were for their baptisms.
Thank you for your input which is very much appreciated.
Roy ... from Down Under.
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Post by Tonkin on Feb 21, 2010 1:08:42 GMT -5
Hi Roy from up top. Email on way. Roy ... from Down Under.
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Post by Tonkin on Feb 21, 2010 16:47:37 GMT -5
Hi Mike and thanks for the info. I expect the Henry Shakerley WILLIAMS born in 1848 to Henry and Catherine was their son. Have not found any others.
According to the Cornwall parish register index Henry Shakerley WILLIAMS (aged 30, son of Martin WILLIAMS) married Katharine JENKIN (aged 27, daughter of Enoch JENKIN) at Levan on 29 November 1844.
I'm a bit confused. Is the name JENKIN an index error? I will try and follow up if you have not already done so.
Have a nice day.
Regards,
Roy ... from Down Under.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Feb 21, 2010 23:44:16 GMT -5
I think I can now add a little more to this family. Having worked through the Sennen PRs some years ago it had me confused that I could not find the marriage of Enoch and Constance in my database. I just did another search for Enoch Tonkin and found the answer! Enoch Tonkin was married twice and he was showing in my database with his first wife. Enoch Tonkin married Elizabeth Sharples 3rd December 1750 at Sennen From this marriage there were four children although a baptism for the first has not yet been found:- Jane d/o Enoch Tonkin bp. 15th October 1752 at St Levan Mary d/o Enoch Tonkin bp. 1st December 1753 at Sennen Cathrine d/o Enoch Tonkin bp. 27th April 1755 at St Levan The following burials all occurred at St Levan:- 27th April 1755 Elizabeth wife of Enok Tonkin 17th November 1755 catherine daughter of Enoch Tonkin 17th December 1755 Elizabeth daughter of Enoch Tonkin Note that Enoch's wife Elizabeth was buried on the same day her daughter Catherine was baptised. Although not recorded as a widower Enoch then married Constance Jelbard at St Levan 26th october 1766. Whether or not I am correct I determined many years ago that the following is Enoch:- Enoch son of James Tonkin bp. 29th April 1729 at Sennen And now for some 'fiddling around'. Enoch son of Edward Tonken bp. 8th February 1707 Madron He might be a possibility for the husband of Anne Stephens in which case it would be reasonable to expect children. It could be that he was widowed early and never remarried - perhaps Anne died in childbirth? CT
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Post by Tonkin on Feb 23, 2010 3:05:27 GMT -5
Hi CT and thank you again.
I went along these lines a few years ago and will have another look in my old files. From memory I was unable to confirm a few things at the time and pushed it aside. I will get back to you again.
Kind regards,
Roy from ... Down Under.
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Post by myghaelangof on Feb 24, 2010 17:24:25 GMT -5
Hi Roy, re Tonkin, or Jenkin. I looked at the parish register some time ago and noted the name as Tonkin. I know it is easy to misread and interchange the names, so it may be worth double checking when the opportunity arises I dont have any info on computer re their children, but it's a fair guess that Henry Shakerley WILLIAMS was their son. A lot of the family carried the Shakerley surname forward as a middle name. Mike
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Post by Tonkin on Feb 25, 2010 1:00:46 GMT -5
Hi Mike,
Re Tonkin or Jenkin. Cornwall Online Parish Clerks also have Henry's bride down as Katharine Jenkin, daughter of Enoch Jenkin. Will try and contact the transcriber and ask for this marriage to be checked again. No harm in asking.
Thank you for your time.
Regards,
Roy from Down Under.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Feb 25, 2010 3:36:36 GMT -5
Roy - I have seen several instances where the name Jenkin has been transcribed when it should have been Tonkin and others where it has been transcribed as Jenkin with a note querying Tonkin. In at least one case that I can recall the name Jenkin was used where it was proved via a Will that it was actually Tonkin. It is a name that can be easily confused when reading old handwriting so it may be necessary to go about it the hard way. Search back for Katherine Jenkin born about 1817 and see if you can find a baptism for her. Check to see if maybe she was a 'one off' and then check for other Jenkin/Tonkin baptisms in the years either side. This should give you an idea. If she is the only Jenkin with a father Enoch and surround by Tonkins cc/o Enoch then it is almost certain she was a Tonkin. I am presuming her birthplace was St Levan? If so then I can tell you that between 1813 and 1837 there were no Jenkins baptised at St Levan. But there were many Tonkins with Enoch and Sarah, Enoch and Honour and Enoch and Elizabeth being prominent. Catherine daughter of Enoch and Sarah Tonkin , labourer of St Levan, was baptised 25th December 1818 at St Levan. CT
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Post by Tonkin on Feb 25, 2010 13:14:33 GMT -5
Hi CT,
I contacted the Cornwall On Line Parish Clerks yesterday and had them recheck the marriage of WILLIAMS and JENKIN and mentioned there may be an error with the spelling.
A reply came back a short time ago from the Parish Clerks. Having checked the record again they agree the name is indeed TONKIN and the error has been amended. I rechecked the record again on line and JENKIN has now been changed to TONKIN.
Many thanks.
Roy ... from down Under.
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Post by Tonkin on Feb 25, 2010 13:21:12 GMT -5
Hi Mike,
Re: Marriage WILLIAMS/JENKIN.
I had the transcriber recheck this marriage and they agree JENKIN is indeed TONKIN and the index has now been amended.
That's another problem solved. Many thanks.
Roy ... from Down Under.
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Post by Tonkin on Feb 25, 2010 14:22:15 GMT -5
Re: Enoch TONKIN.
Hi again CT.
I forgot to mention I agree with you about the birth year of Enoch TONKIN not being 1745, and this also explains why I have been having so much trouble trying to find his birth and death. I knew something was wrong but could not work it out. I looked at the marriage of Enoch and Elizabeth Sharples in 1750 but pushed it aside because Enoch would have been 5 years old at the time.
It just goes to prove if your fed the wrong information your going to hit brick wall after brick wall.
I'm now off on a new venture ... finding Enoch some new parents and siblings.
Best wishes for now,
Roy ... from Down Under.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Feb 26, 2010 9:09:54 GMT -5
It only takes a small spanner mate! ;D
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