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Post by Cornish Terrier on Nov 17, 2014 12:47:28 GMT -5
Hi Zib - at this point the only information I have in my database for the Nankervis children are their names with year and place of birth. I have not yet checked registers for baptisms and nor have I looked for marriages so the information you have provided is of interest to me. That also means that I currently cannot answer your question about what happened to Robert Richards Nankervis.
I am busy at the moment trying to get fire extinguishers serviced and although it is cool this week we have already had a small taste of what is to come this Summer with a fire threatening a small town not far from here last week.
As and when I have time I will try and gather more information about this family and see if I can help track down Robert.
CT
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Post by zibetha on Nov 20, 2014 0:20:34 GMT -5
No rush. We are experiencing an early severely cold winter here, so your summer situation is not something that occurred to me--not that I ever expect a fast response. Do what is important! I am exploring the journey of family members who came to the USA and discovering that there were more than I expected. It intrigues me to encounter how the Cornish families weave together in the States in ways that might not have occurred in Cornwall.
Z
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Nov 20, 2014 4:31:27 GMT -5
Okay - I will do what I can as and when I am able to do it. After all, it is all related to the Trewhella families. I reckon that by midway through next week I should have all the fire extinguishers serviced so it will be then up to the weather gods just how much rest I get before we start to get busy on the fire front. My own thoughts are that we are in for a long and bad season again this year but only time will tell. Once those extinguishers are out of the way I hope to have at least a few days rest so will make an attempt to find some answers then. CT
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Nov 26, 2014 5:46:05 GMT -5
Zib - do you have details of the marriage of John Nankervis to Elizabeth (Newton) Williams please? I can't seem to find a record of it anywhere at the moment.
CT
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Post by zibetha on Nov 26, 2014 16:46:01 GMT -5
Sure, that one's tricky due to the indexing. Family Search Michigan Marriages 1822 to 1995. They were married Dec 29th, 1897 at Calumet, Michigan. John's last name is indexed as "Narikervis" and his father Richard was "Rihil Narikervis." Elizabeth's name is listed correctly as Elizabeth Newton Williams, father: John Newton. Nankervis transcription errors/variations seem to be almost as varied as the Trewhella ones Zib
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Nov 27, 2014 3:22:52 GMT -5
Excellent - thanks for the information. I now have the image for that one as well as images for the marriages of Mary and Martha in Michigan. I also now have baptisms for all five known children of John Nankervis by his two wives if you need them. I have to wonder about that gap between daughter Mary in 1867 and son Richard in 1880 but there are no additional children showing up in the records I have access to. I still have no further sighting of Robert Richards Nankervis but as he would have been about 34 when the Great War started it might be worth trying to check some Military Records. Not sure when I will get time to do that but I will certainly keep it on the agenda as a 'to do'. CT
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Post by zibetha on Nov 30, 2014 21:56:56 GMT -5
I've just found Robert's whereabouts many years after the last sighting of him in the English Census. He was listed as a survivor in his sister Mary Trewhella Nankervis Williams' obituary in the Jan 11, 1947 issue of the Ironwood (Michigan) Daily Globe. His residence was given as South Africa. That leaves a big gap to fill, but, at least he didn't fall completely off the map!
I have not found more than the 5 children, either. In 1871, Martha Frances Richards Nankervis was listed in the Census as head of household with daughter, Mary (3) present. Her stepson, John Trewhela Nankervis, was residing with his father's parents, and John and Martha's older daughter, Bessie, was living with her mother's brother's family. By 1881, John Nankervis had rejoined the household and was working as a gardener. So, there is a long stretch of time when he could have been "away" that might account for there being no additional children between Mary and Robert.
Zib
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Nov 30, 2014 23:38:17 GMT -5
Great work Zib! - Have you saved a copy of that Obit. that you might be able to send me as an email attachment? AHA!!!!!!!!!! Because of that little bit of searching you have now led me to something a little more substantial!!! The mention of South Africa prompted me to have a look on the off chance I might find something in the FamilySearch records and VOILA!!! South Africa, Church of the Province of South Africa, Parish Registers, 1801-2004Violet daughter of Robert Richards (Station Master) and Maria Jane Squire Nankervis of Hatherley was baptized at WatewalBoven in the Diocese of Pretoria 23rd January 1914. (Declared birth date August 9th 1913)The following link should take you to the Details page with an option to View and/or Download the image at right - familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVS4-CTPCSo Robert was a 'Station Master' which presumably meant employed by the Railways and his wife was Maria Jane. I suspect but cannot be certain that SQUIRE was the maiden name of Robert's wife. AHA!!! - but there is more!!! South Africa, Methodist Parish Registers, 1822-1996John Grenfell Trelawney son of Robert Richards and Maria Jane Squire Nankervis of Pan baptized 12th July 1911 at the Wesleyan Methodist Church, Belfast. (born May 2nd 1911)
This link should get you there - familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2HRY-4PXAnd that seems to be all there is for the moment. I suspect there will be more as only a small percentage of images have been transcribed so an image by image search of these collections would be a worthwhile exercise. Problem is that a project like that requires plenty of patience and, probably, coffee!! CT
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Post by zibetha on Dec 1, 2014 0:07:45 GMT -5
Just sent it! Wow! this is amazing information. I normally speaketh slang not!
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Post by zibetha on Dec 1, 2014 0:18:30 GMT -5
I must say, that from the beginning, you mentioned that "my" branch of the Trewhel(l)a family was spread out across the globe. As I have researched it, I came to nickname it the "Traveling Trewhelas" a la the "Traveling Wilburys" -- a musical reference you might appreciate Thank you, Zib
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Post by spikeharwood on Dec 1, 2014 18:58:32 GMT -5
Their "End of the Line" is especially apt!
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Post by spikeharwood on Dec 1, 2014 19:00:23 GMT -5
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Post by zibetha on Dec 1, 2014 20:21:03 GMT -5
Good one, Spike! Made me smile.
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