Mayor of Penzance's diary 1816/17

[myghaelangof]

Following entries may be of interest:
13 June 1817 Heard a complaint of Ann Hosking of Trereiffe against Henry Trewhella of Madron for stealing 2 sacks of wheat from the market yesterday. Prisoner denied any knowledge but was committed for trial.
18 July 1817: Trinity Sessions; William Trewhella indicted for stealing sacks with corn in the market, when he pleaded guilty. To be imprisoned another week, then publicly whipped.
24 July 1817 William Trewhella publicly whipped according to his sentence round the market and discharged.

Apparently this diary of Henry Boase was reprinted in Collectanea Cornubiensis in 1890

[Cornish Terrier]

Thankyou my friend - I think I had some brief detail of a couple of these events but do appreciate your input and also the reminder about them.

Not certain I had all this detail but better 'more than less' - i.e. rather have it twice than not at all.

These fellas 'could' possibly be included in the Francis Trewheela Thread given he seems to have been a bit of a miscreant and got himself a 7 year holiday in America in about 1763.

Also have a James Grenfell Trewhella from Penzance area who earned himself a 15-year holiday in Van Diemen's Land (Tasmania) in about 1850.

This bloke got 'done' for arson according to all the records I have seen.

Given I am a Volunteer Firefighter and have held the rank of Lieutenant it probably does not look good.

But that was more than 150 years ago and I have not yet found a definite link.

I need to post a new thread in the Trewhella section about his family to see if anyone can find something I have been unable to find.

One other thing I can tell you with reasonable certainty is that this James Grenfell Trewhella was definitely related to the two for whom you have just supplied information.

[Cornish Terrier]

Just had another look at this latest and have discovered a little problem that I need to look into.

All events took place in 1817 which is wherein the problem lies.

I had it in mind that the Henry Trewhella was the man who later married Elizabeth Honeychurch at Madron in 1834 (and it could still have been him).

But this Henry would have been only 12 at the time.

Very possible but the fact he was 'committed for trial' is possibly an indication that the offender 'may' have been older.

If so then it would have been his father who was the offender.

The next problem is the William Trewhella of the same year who served his sentence of a public whipping.

If he is who I thought he was then he would have been only 10 years old at the time.

Given the times of these offences, and the laws and punishments of the era, it is still quite likely that Henry and William were indeed the two I had identified.

If so, then it was their nephew who was sent to Tasmania.

Must look into this some more when I get the time to sit and relax and look properly at all the information.

[halfcornish]

Are these 2 reports one and the same? Henry was committed for trial on 13th June and the trial held on 18th July? No mention elsewhere of Henry's actual trial etc. Think this may be one person only, probably Henry. Presume he is the son of Henry Trewhella and Jane Grenfell who married Elizabeth Honeychurch in 1834?
Another snippet:- FILE - Quarter Sessions Order Book - ref. QS/1/12 - date: Apr 1831-Mar 1836
item: Sessions held at Bodmin - ref. QS/1/12/1-27 - date: 15 April 1831
[from Scope and Content] James Trewhella of Madron, lab., indicted for stealing one bundle of barley straw and another bundle of straw, from Elizabeth Smith: one month's hard labour in Bodmin gaol.
This is James Grenfell Trewhella b. 1809, son of Henry & Jane above, whose son James Grenfell Trewhella also fell foul of the Law and was transported. Furthermore, another of his sons, John Pellew Trewhella, b. 1838, served two prison terms whilst serving in the Royal Navy! (My great-grandfather).

[myghaelangof]

Hello HalfCornish
Ian will probably have more to say on this when he returns. However, I thought from the chronology of events that the diary refers to the same person, and either Boase, the Mayor, made a mistake with christian names, or Collectanea Cornubiensis has mistranscribed one.
Seems very likely all 3 events relate to the same person.
Mike

[Cornish Terrier]

Thanks Mike - and Hello 'halfCornish'.

Nice to have you aboard this little trip and able to add some fodder.

We shall have to discuss much of this later as I am about to head to bed after a long night catching up on things here.

Work tonight and still unpacking etc. to do but will be keeping tabs on things now that I am back online.

But I am certainly interested (now even more so) about this particular Trewhella family.

I have spent years trying to find the origins of Henry Trevella (Trewhella) who married Jane Grenfell and spent a lot of time at the Cornwall Record Office searching PR's and other documents and still cannot place him.

However, to keep this note short, you say that John Pellew Trewhella was your great-grandfather??

I would certainly like to discuss more of this family with you.

I have, over the years, met or corresponded with, many members of the descendants of Henry and Jane and I have quite a lot of information here.

I also have information that I have gathered myself from the CRO and other sources so it will be very interesting to talk with you.

In years gone by I have also spoken with other members of your family (extended) so have been able to piece together quite a bit.

One item I found that I had been mistaken on may be interesting:-

Henry s/o Henry Trewhella and Elizabeth (Honeychurch) married Jane Cockell in 1856.

Among their children was a son named Henry.

Searching IGI (many, many years ago) I found the marriage of Henry Trewhella to Kate Daniel in 1892 and 'worked out' that this was the son of Henry and Elizabeth.

Whilst in London in 1994, however, I found out that I was wrong after a visit to the various archives.

It turns out that the younger Henry died 'at sea' aboard (or maybe not) the ship 'Boswedden' in 1887.

This then meant that the above-mentioned marriage was a second marriage for his father.

I then found that Jane (nee Cockell) was buried at Penzance in 1892.

Must get to bed now but I will be extremely interested to discuss this family with you.

I know some of the family who live in Western Australia and also, if still there, in Mulgrave, Victoria. (Mind you, I have not been in contact for years.)

Please feel free to contact me via PM or email to discuss this.

Ian

[halfcornish]

Hi Ian Will respond by email - sorry to be so tardy but Christmas got in the way ;D

[Cornish Terrier]

Bah Humbug! ;D

You may be aware of some of my Internet problems so if you have tried to contact me then things may have been lost in 'the ether'.

Please get in touch again as soon as you can as I would like to discuss this part of the Trewhella family much more.

Ian