Martin DUNN in Gulval (and Ludgvan)

[donne]

Still trying to tie off a few loose ends in Gulval. I have a transcript of the settlement examination of a Martin DUNN dated 17 Oct 1753, CRO Ref CRO DDX 506/89 which states that he was born in the parish of Gulval but removed with his parents to Ludgvan where he remained for 60 years, 'intermarrying' (strange term) with his present wife Edna, before returning to Gulval where he rented an 'estate' for a period of 10 years.

It seems to me that it's not difficult to link this Martin DUNN with the Marten bap 6 Jan 1666/67 to parents Pascow and Maria in Gulval. There is a marriage (submission) in the IGI suggesting a marriage of Martin DUNN to Jane CHELEW in Gulval 30 Nov 1700 and several subsequent baptisms to Martin DUNN. However I can't trace a death of Jane or a subsequent marriage (in Ludgvan) to an Edna as is suggested by the settlement examination.

Can anyone help with the marriage to Edna and the two sons born to that marriage, possibly in Ludgvan according to the settlement examination? I see that there are two burials in Gulval on the Cornwall OPC site, Martin DUNN, 20 Jan 1756 and Edna DUNN, widow, 6 May 1758, which tends to confirm the marriage to Edna.

[Cornish Terrier]

From the CFHS Transcript of Gulval Marriages:-

Martin DONNE married Jane CHELEW (BT CHILEU) 30th November 1700

So that part of it is okay.

Also - From the CFHS Transcript of Ludgvan Baptisms 1712-1840:-

John son of Martyn DUNN bp. 28th July 1717 at Ludgvan

That is the only one recorded for any member of the Donne/Dunne (var.) families at Ludgvan.

CT

[white]

There is also,
Bridgett Donne married,
first to Andrew Humphry, 06 oct. 1688
secondly to Pascow Symons , 23 sept 1699
Roy
she daughter of Pascow Donne and Maria Edwards

[donne]

Thanks for confirming the Jane CHELEW marriage from the CFHS marriage index - I was a bit worried by the IGI submission.

However there are quite a few baptisms in Ludgvan to Martin DUNN's family listed in the IGI, in addition to John DUNN bap 1717 as follows:

Paskow DUNNE bap.25 AUG 1701 Ludgvan
Lovedy DONN bap. 27 SEP 1702 Ludgvan
Lovedy DUNN bap. 13 NOV 1703 Ludgvan
Richard DUNN bap. 09 NOV 1706 Ludgvan
Joseph DUN bap. 09 APR 1705 Ludgvan
Mary DUN bap. 09 APR 1705 Ludgvan
Henery DUN bap. 26 JAN 1707 Ludgvan

I am wondering if Jane died in the 10 year gap between the birth of Henery and the baptism of John in 1717, and that John was in fact born to Edna.

The transcript goes on to say that Martin DUNN had two sons of Edna, 'one of whom still lives in Gulval' (as at 1753)

[Cornish Terrier]

Roger - the CFHS Index for Ludgvan baptisms begins at 1712.

I have also checked Phillimore and found no reference for the marriage to Edna.

Looking at the IGI list of children for Martin I would suggest that Jane probably died in 1707 or soon after given the short time-span of the births.

So I would therefore suggest that Edna may well have been the mother of John.

But if there were two sons then where was the other baptised?

Unless it was prior to 1712 then Ludgvan seems obviously out of the equation and I can see no record of the event from 1713 onwards at Gulval.

I suggest you get in touch with the OPC for Ludgvan and ask for a check on the second baptism, the burial for Jane and the marriage to Edna.

In fact it would be worth asking for the IGI baptisms to be checked also.

CT

[donne]

I have now contacted the Ludgvan OPC,Bill Curnow, and he has provided me with a date for the burial of Jane DUNN nee CHELEW, 20 Feb 1710 in Ludgvan. Hence the John DUNN baptism of 1717 definitely belongs to the second marriage of Martin DUNN. We can't find a Martin DUNN/ Edna marriage although the OPC tells me that there is a gap in the record between Jun 1711 and Apr 1712, where one might expect a marriage, with Martin left with a young family on his hands.

The OPC had associated a Madron marriage between a Martin DUNN and Elizabeth GEORGE and the associated family with Martin of Ludgvan/Gulval's second marriage. However, after discussing my source and and an anomaly in the birth dates of the Madron family, I think he is now persuaded that the DUNN/GEORGE marriage is spurious. I expect we will continue our investigations - I'll let you know if anything turns up.