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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2011 3:04:31 GMT -5
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It just goes to show that when a document comes along and seems to be completely out of order, sometimes it is telling a true story that is not clear when you read the available records etc.
George Glasson, who died in unusual circumstances may not really be a Glasson but if he is then it places new light on some of the assumptions made on the Glassons of this area.
Trouble is of course he died 12 or so years too early??!!
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jan 14, 2011 3:25:38 GMT -5
The little fly that has a passion for the ointment! Sooner or later the answer will surface and hopefully this latest will help make it sooner.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2011 17:28:33 GMT -5
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The document has arrived but I am really struggling to read it. How are you for interpreting hand writing? If anybody else is interested let me know and I will send you a scan by email.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jan 26, 2011 21:21:35 GMT -5
Lannanta - It is difficult to read but I think I will be able to decipher most of it.
The one thing I notice is that George Glasson appears to have occupied the 'Tyth Sheaf of paul' so that might give another clue.
Will try and decipher the whole document later on tonight.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jan 26, 2011 21:32:32 GMT -5
BINGO! I think I have the answer for you! I read the note in your email regarding the date before trying to read the document but my first impression was that the year was NOT 1812 and NOT 1842. In actual fact my first impression was that it looked more like 1802. This letter was dated November 29th, 1802 and mentioned 'I take the earliest opportunity of informing you of the death of our Tenant for the Tyth Sheaf of paul George Glasson ...' It also mentions 'by all accounts he has died in very bad circumstance .....' I know not whether his Bro. John Glasson .....' This was George Glasson of Trungle who died of 'decline' age 46 and was buried at Paul in November 1802. He was the husband of Sarah Boase whom he married at Paul in 1780 and his youngest brother was John Glasson (husband of Constance Edmonds) who died at Paul in 1842. How's that? CT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2011 22:59:50 GMT -5
Ahhhh.... only when you suggest that it is a zero do I then see it as a zero - 1802. Well CT you have done well yet again but you do realise of course that you have scuttled my "unknown / undected Gulval Glasson family" Lannanta
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2011 23:07:04 GMT -5
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And six days later his wife Sarah 'died of grief'.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2011 23:10:57 GMT -5
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How about this place -
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jan 27, 2011 7:43:31 GMT -5
Lannanta - I think the records now tie in quite nicely although I was not aware of this latest one. Is that like 'Scuttle-but' - 'shot in the behind like a garden thrush!' ;D George probably left her no money to pay the Rent! Has it crossed your mind that this 'solution' has now saved you having TWO George Glassons roaming around the area unattached? It might be 'back to the drawing board' but at least you have eliminated some items which should help narrow down the search. CT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2011 3:58:32 GMT -5
CT Can't get this one out of my mind mate. Have you seen the baptisms at Gulval for the three children of Thomas and Elizabeth - Thomas, Jennifer and Susanna? I was wondering if they were all baptised at the same time? I was also wondering if it could have been a second baptism for the son Thomas? The only Thomas that could be the father of these three children is surely Thomas Glasson, the husband of Jane Daniel. It is interesting that the son Thomas, marrried Jane Michell in 1831 at Gulval, and Jane came from Zennor - so why Gulval?? Then the reason that Jane (Jenifer) Pool and son are with Thomas and Jane Glasson in 1841 census becomes obvious - she was their daughter? The two previous Jennifers both died at Paul. Could it simply be that the three children at Gulval were baptised there and their mother's name was incorrectly recorded, or perhaps she was an Elizabeth Jane or some such thing? Clutching at straws I know but as has been said - they had to belong somewhere. Lannanta
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jan 30, 2011 6:32:18 GMT -5
Lannanta - for the moment just a couple of things in response to your last. The three children were all baptised separately and in each case the mother is recorded as Elizabeth in the Gulval PR. There is no other description like occupation or abode for Thomas so no help there. Because she was resident at Gulval at the time of marraige. Perhaps more interesting is that Thomas was 'of Madron' at this time. I am on the back foot here as I don't have this marriage in my database. However I notice that Thomas was a widower when he married Jane Daniel in 1790 at Madron and one of the witnesses was Joseph Glasson jnr. What is known of his first marriage? Nothing is coming to mind that might help at the moment so I will have to sleep on it for a while. CT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2011 3:33:10 GMT -5
CT This family keeps coming back to haunt me: In your note above you recorded the 1841 census and included was a 45 year old Ann Glasson. Well that Ann married the widower Thomas Richards in 1854. In the 1861 census Thomas and Ann Richards were living at Chyenall at Paul. But by 1871 Ann was a widow, and her boarder was a 64 year old Susan GLASSON who was born in Gulval. Surely there is a connection between the husband of Jane Daniel - Thomas Glasson, and the Thomas Glasson who was the father of the three children at Gulval. It would not surprise me if Thomas was off up the road to see the girlfriend. Lannanta
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Apr 16, 2011 21:33:49 GMT -5
Sorry Lannanta - I saw this and the Thomas I J G Glasson messages yesterday but somehow completely forgot to take a look at them! Well ............. don't smirk and mock at this suggestion - Anybody! I have an example of a Thomas Trewhella who appears to have done just that in the 1870s. I will try to take another look at this and work through all the available data and hopefully have some sort of answer this afternoon. CT
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Apr 16, 2011 23:26:23 GMT -5
There is something very obviously not right with things here. We are either missing a Thomas Glasson somewhere or, as you suggest, old mate was up the road getting it off with the girlfriend while the missus was out doing the shopping! Do you have the details of the Thomas Richards/Ann Glasson marriage? I am still struggling to work this out but will keep trying. CT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2011 23:37:16 GMT -5
CT I cannot see it any other way at the moment. The only way it makes sense is for Thomas to be the father of both sets of children, but it is hard to accept that when there is no proof. Scan on its way to you. Lannanta
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