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Post by Mal on Jul 22, 2009 7:28:33 GMT -5
I thought I would post this to help with those darn ALIASES that CT loves so much... If you look on pages 7-8 of Madron Book 1 which you can download for free in PDF it gives a list of the aliases
ALIAS WATCH
Ley/Lea alias Kempthorne ftom Vivians Cossen alias Maddern/Maddren from Vivians, Madron Book etc Kearne alias Tresilian from Vivians Davies alias Gendall from OPC/Philimores etc Chynoweth alias Trevelissick from Vivians Thomas alias Roberts Thomas alias Angove Thomas alias Polgoone (?) Thomas alias Daddow Stevens alias Stinion Stevens alias Row Stevens alias Roe Stevens alias Trevawin Kegwin alias Hoskyn Symons alias Crankan Rowe alias Chepy Richard alias Maddern
Davy, Davis, Davies etc alias Rowan ....oh no.... ;D
Bodennar alias Noye This one is interesting because there seems to be a connection between the Harry, Noye and Bodinnar families at Paul, and later Carvosso although I haven't been able to establish anything yet.
Ankow allias Harries Anmear alias James Harries alias Penreeth Harries alias Cleare (?) Trembath alias Hoskin
I have included some of the names I have seen popping up here from time to time, so perhaps, added to bad spelling and variants, if you can't find an ancestor, check what the aliases were too!!!
M
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Post by Zenobia on Jul 22, 2009 8:33:49 GMT -5
I've tangled with aliases in a number of my families. In Gwithian I have Bennett Harry of Angarrack, who has several children baptised as children of Bennett Angarrack. My Richard Roberts, who called himself 'alias Trevernan' (from his landholding) was called by his inventories "alias Jenkin", which finally led me to discover his marriage as "Richard, son of Robert Jenkin". Also in Gwithian I have Lawrence Rondall, who alternately appears as Lawrence Tolsethan, and whose son John calls himself John Lawrence. And in Gulval and Lelant I have the Bennatts alias Kerrow family, which is further confused by the progenitor, Bennatt Kerrow having two sons (born two years apart) named James, who alternately call themselves James Bennatts, James Kerrow, James Bennats alias Kerrow etc. (usually adding 'the younger' or 'the elder'.)
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 22, 2009 19:05:40 GMT -5
And then there is Trewhela alias Polglase and Polglase alias Trewhela from the Breage area.
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Post by Mal on Jul 23, 2009 5:30:23 GMT -5
What I see with many aliases is that may refer to the place where the family came from and/or the "clan" to which people belonged.
Looking over the channel I found this about the use of aliases in France, given that Cornishmen have a good dose of Norman and Breton blood in them then perhaps it's worth considering these factors too..
Alias Surnames or Dit Names
In some areas of France, a second surname may have been adopted in order to distinguish between different branches of the same family, especially when the families remained in the same town for generations. These alias surnames can often be found preceded by the word "dit." Sometimes an individual even adopted the dit name as the family name, and dropped the original surname. This practice was most common in France among soldiers and sailors.
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Post by tonymitch on Jul 23, 2009 17:53:46 GMT -5
Bit like the Welsh....I used to work with several David Jones' who were nearly all related. They all adopted, or to be accurate had Alias' forced upon them, usually corresponding to physical characteristics. We had Dai Bryn; Dai Womble; Dai Scarface and even a Davy Crocket, because he always wore a hat.
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Post by white on Jul 24, 2009 8:55:11 GMT -5
Bit like the Welsh....I used to work with several David Jones' who were nearly all related. They all adopted, or to be accurate had Alias' forced upon them, usually corresponding to physical characteristics. We had Dai Bryn; Dai Womble; Dai Scarface and even a Davy Crocket, because he always wore a hat. My Father,David White, who worked for the Coop for many years as a bread delivery man was always known as Dai the Bread. But have you heard of "Dai Flathead". 2 Londoners visiting the Rhondda popped into one of the little pubs for a drink. Stood by the bar they noticed a man coming in who was about 4 foot tall and almost as wide.They imediately started to laugh at his appearance. One of the locals then reprimanded them for laughing and said that Dai, known as "Dai Flathead" was a local hero and that no one would like to see him ridiculed.He told the tale of Dai being underground when they had a roof fall. Dai, who was 6 foot tall at the time, held up the roof whilst the others escaped. The 2 Londoners apologised for their laughter, but did ask how Dai had such a large cauliflower ear. They were told that this was where they hit him with the sledge hammer to get him out. ;D
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Post by Mal on Jul 28, 2009 5:43:37 GMT -5
I found a reference by William Gwavas to a certain member of the family referred to as "Pedngwynn" because of his white hair, apparantly very typical in "Celtic" countries. I can't remember which one it was, but add to this that Gwavas was an alias of Hicks and vice versa and that Pedngwyn (Penwyn) might have been translated into English giving "Whitehead" and you can see how easily messy it can get...
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Post by londoner on Sept 10, 2009 3:01:19 GMT -5
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Post by Mal on Sept 10, 2009 5:27:06 GMT -5
Jenny and I have just established that MARY-MOLLY-POLLY may be one to watch out for too....!
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