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Post by emilyc on Jul 23, 2009 4:09:15 GMT -5
Oh p.s i have William 1851 who was a stocker in the navys marraige cert, which says his father was william, but that could be a mistake. I tried finding william 1851's death cert but i have had no luck the last record i have of him in the 1901 census when his living with wife Mary Jane,(she seems to swich between names alot) and children Fredrick born 1880, William, Francis, Archibald and Lily May. I tried to see if william and Jane/Mry left the country i had no joy there either it seems they just vanished. Emily
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 23, 2009 5:52:15 GMT -5
Emily - nice to hear you are happy with the results of our searches. Of course we have not yet made a positive identification but I do think we are getting closer. I just wish I had access to more information for Perranarworthal but it is one Parish where I am sadly lacking. Now - I have also had a look to see if I could find death records for William and Mary Jane but, like you, with no result. But I have found them in the 1911 Census! ;D I only have access to the very bare details but it appears they were probably still living in the same place. In 1901 the family was at Millbrook in the St German's District. In 1911 we have William TRAHAR age 58, Jane age 60, Frank age 21 and Lily age 17 living in the St German's District so it is undoubtedly them. Apart from those already discussed I have another reason for believing the William from Sennen is out of the equation. The family you are dealing with seems to consistantly spell the name as TRAHAR all the way through the time period we have been looking at. The Sennen family, no matter where they were, seem to just as consistently spell their name TRAHAIR. Another option for you to try in your search for death/burial information for William and Mary Jane would be to try the Online Parish Clerk. I know the information is not available online at their site but you could send them an email with your request. You could try the OPC for St German's first. If they don't actually cover Millbrook then they should be able to point you in the right direction. I have dealt with a few of these people and they have always been very helpful so definitely worth a try. If you are not sure, or do not know, how to contact them just let us know and we will point you in the right direction. Now - I have something else that might be interesting that I am having a look at so will post the results in a following note. CT
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 23, 2009 5:59:33 GMT -5
Emily - standby your email for a little surprise! I have found two records of Francis TRAHAR returning to England from New York in 1954 and 1956. His address is given as Millbrook, Plymouth (in one record it is Millbroath!) and the age given matches your Francis born in 1889/90. I will hunt around a little more to see if there is anything else I can find. CT
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Post by emilyc on Jul 23, 2009 6:47:50 GMT -5
Hi ive found another possiblity for a William born in Falmouth Born june quarter 1847 name Trahar William Keast.
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Post by emilyc on Jul 23, 2009 6:49:22 GMT -5
Ah brilliant i have a record for francis leaving england with archibal his son and i believe his wife lizze for New york. i know he moved to flint Michagan.
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Post by emilyc on Jul 23, 2009 7:31:27 GMT -5
This is all fantastic thank you, I dont know how to contact them but if you could explain to me how i will email them an see if i can get anything. I do not have subcription to ancestory.com but i typed in Fancis/ franks son and came up with a load of hits so i may investigat that more as will.
Thats brilliant about the 1911 census i tryed a month or so ago and i had no joy. But it may have been updated after my last try. The extra good news about that for me is it brought more certainty to me that a large family photo i have which includes my great grandfather fredrick his wife and youngest son, sister lilly he husband and son and brother frank and unknown couple are william and Mary, as i have a photo of everyone else parents.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 23, 2009 8:48:47 GMT -5
It seems from your email that you found out how to contact the OPC - well done. Any problems just let us know. CT
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 23, 2009 8:56:08 GMT -5
Re William Keast TRAHAR It won't hurt to investigate him but given your William is very consistent with his age I think W K would be too early. Always possible there is a family connection so if there is it would be good to have him linked. Once you get a link to one you will want to find links to others and then things start to really snowball and you start to have lots and lots of fun! ----- And Headaches and sleepless nights and chores not done and ................... ;D
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Post by emilyc on Jul 23, 2009 11:04:32 GMT -5
That is the problem the trahar's are my most challanging so far, my name sake were really easy as cowie was cowe is so comman and I just kept finding people with no problems, although with them i'm starting to try and look at more personal areas to build up individuals but these trahars i have quite a lot of personal information for people and photos but they just keep hindering any progress i make but i will beat them i will find every one of them even if it takes me till im 100. hahaha
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 23, 2009 13:46:33 GMT -5
That's the spirit - I like your attitude! My cousin in Cornwall gave me the nickname 'cornish terrier' quite some years ago because she reckoned I was very similar - once I get my teeth into a problem I won't let go until I have solved it. ;D I do still have a couple that have been haunting me for 30 years but I will find the answer one day!
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Post by rlt on Sept 7, 2009 13:03:09 GMT -5
Emily, It seems I found you another way. I did make contact with Sandy and we have exchanged a few emails. The William Trahar she knows of was William Keast Trahar son of Stephen Woolcock Trahar and Mary Ann Hill, b 1848. I found a 1861 England census that had him as just William Traher b 1848, so now I am really confused. So I am not sure what to do. Any suggestion from you folks that have been posting here would be appreciated. I don't know if I should start a new interest post or continue with this one. I don't want to hijack Emily's thread. I also am looking for a William Traher from Perranaworthal. He was b abt. 1850, may 1848. He married Mary Strout and they moved to the US settling in Nanticoke PA. around 1870. Mary is also from Perranaworthal. She also was b abt 1850. They are my great, great, great grandparents. I have all the family information since they settled in the US. But I am trying to fined out which Trahar/Traher/Trahern/Trahair family they are from. So any help from you folks will be appreciated. Thanks. RLT
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Post by emilyc on Sept 7, 2009 13:31:54 GMT -5
Hi yes you have found me here, Unfortunatly I've had no luck tracing this family it seems as though they just appeared one day, and then some decided to vanish another. For information on your ancestors who moved to the US have you looked on the www.ancestry.co.uk they hold all sort of useful information/documents, I managed to find some passanger records with my great graduncle on and Cornish Terrier emailed me some as well. Oh another spelling i found for Traher is Trear.
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Post by emilyc on Sept 7, 2009 13:38:56 GMT -5
Oh but to clarify Trear was a misspelling of the name.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Sept 7, 2009 16:26:23 GMT -5
Hi 'rlt' and welcome to the site. I will have another look around see what more I might be able to find. Meanwhile - I think it best that all conversation on the TRAHER/TRAHAR/TRAHAIR family be kept here for time being for convenience. I realise we have separated them into the Sennen Group and your own Perranarworthal Group but it will be much easier for all to follow if things remain here. CT
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Sept 7, 2009 16:34:00 GMT -5
For the benefit of all let's start adding a few details as we find them.
Stephen Woolcock TRAHAR, bachelor, of full age, iron moulder of Greenwith Common (son of Hopson Trahar, iron moulder) married Mary Ann HILL, spinster, nail maker of Greenwith Common (daughter of Thomas Hill) by Banns 6th April 1845 at Perranarworthal Witnesses:- Ralph Stephens and Drusilla Keast
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