Confirm the Birth of Ann Michell

[snydly]

Hi there;

I was wondering if someone could confirm the Birth of Ann Michell on December 24th, 1826.

She later married William Baragwanath on April 9th 1848.

I just need help on the Birth so I can trace the parents properly:

I think her parents are Daniel Michell and Ann Phillips Married December 28, 1800

www.cornwall-opc-database.org/moreinfo.php?ID=362822&dbtype=marriages

Any help would be welcome.

[Deleted]

Hi Snydly

I think not. Both the IGI and the parish register for Zennor say that the parents of the Nanny Michell baptised on the 24th December 1826 were Daniel ( a shoemaker) and Sarah. They also had baptised at Zennor a Jane and a Mary Ann - at least.

The only marriage at Zennor in my records is Daniel Michell and Sarah Phillips married in Zennor on 30 December 1804. However it is likely that there was more than one couple with the same christian names in my view.

Lannanta

[snydly]

Thanks Lannata

The other possibility I had come up against was the Daniel marriage to Sarah. So I guess that confirms that Ann (Nanny) Michell's parents are Sarah and Daniel.

I kept coming up against that information with Ancestry.co.uk hints.

Any Baptism records for Sarah and Daniel then would help ... the Daniel I kept getting in the Ancestry hints was born in March 1761 in Towedenack.

[Cornish Terrier]

Snydly - I reckon I can help you just a little with this.

William Baragwanath married Ann Michell 9th April 1848 at Zennor

William was baptised at Towednack 18th February 1821 son of William Baragwanath and Jennifer Dunstone who married at Towednack 11th November 1816.

I can take the Baragwanath line right back and believe the links are accurate although I would need to review all my information again to be absolutely certain.

Jennifer Dunstone was the second child of Hugh Dunstone of Towednack and Mary Geach who married 30th June 1782 at Budock.

I am not yet sure of the origins of Hugh Dunstone but have pieced together much of his descendants.

Now for Ann MICHELL.

She was baptised at Zennor 24th December 1826 and was the last of nine children of Daniel Michell and Sarah Phillips who married at Zennor 30th December 1804.

Daniel Michell bp. 1st January 1779 at Zennor was the son of Samuel Michell and Jane Edwards who married 12th March 1776 at Zennor.

Daniel had been previously married to Elizabeth Christopher 29th July 1763 at Zennor.

Sarah Phillips was bp. 10th June 1780 at Zennor daughter of Francis Phillips and Elizabeth Curnow who married 29th September 1775 at Zennor.

This is another scenario of which I am reasonably confident having done quite a bit of work on it some time back.

However I do need to completely review all information to be absolutely certain given I have so much more data available than previously.

Daniel Michell and Ann Phillips - just to help clarify things a little.

Daniel Michell was resident at Penzance when he died in 1848 and had married Anne Phillips at Zennor 28th December 1800.

This Daniel was baptised at Zennor 28th December 1772 son of Robert Michell and Jane Quick who married at Towednack 30th December 1763.

Ann Phillips - I am yet to determine when or where Ann was baptised.
She was buried at Zennor in 1831 and was recorded as being 'of Gulval' age 57 so would have been born about 1773.

Her baptism is not found at Zennor or Towednack and the LDS site is currently undergoing maintenance so I cannot check there.

Hope that lot helps.

CT

[snydly]

Thanks CT for the information:

I have noticed many discrepancies to the information that I have, so perhaps we can tackle this together to get concensus on the Family line.

Lets start with this information:
William Baragwanath married Ann Michell 9th April 1848 at Zennor

William was baptised at Towednack 18th February 1821 son of William Baragwanath and Jennifer Dunstone who married at Towednack 11th November 1816.


www.cornwall-opc-database.org/moreinfo.php?ID=150358&dbtype=marriages

I had John Baragwanath and Mary Ann Dunstone as the parents, which is were things cascade from here differently for me into the past.

The children of Ann Michell and William Baragwanath are:
Ann 1848 - 1938 (my direct Relation)
Jane 1851 -
Prudence 1853 -
John 1855 - (Is this first Male Child of significance, named after father usually)

Let me know what you think about these observations.

[Cornish Terrier]

Easiest way to answer that:-

William Baragwanath, butcher of Tregurthen, son of William Baragwanath, farmer, married Ann Michell, spinster of Tregurthen, daughter of Daniel Michell, farmer, 9th April 1848 Zennor

The entry is quite clear and, as you can see, states the father was William Baragwanath.

CT

[snydly]

Time to revisit this line of my family. I have noticed a huge error in my Ancestry tree and I want to connect William Baragwanath to his ancestors in the 1600's correctly once and for all.

Thanks in advance for any forthcoming help with this.

[Cornish Terrier]

G'day Snydly - since you last asked about this family I have managed to find a little more.

Nothing has changed about the parents of William Baragwanath and he is still the son of William and Jenifer (Dunstone).

It is the 'other' William that I have found a little more about.

William Baragwanath bp. 16th January 1820 Towednack son of John Baragwanath and Mary (nee Dunstone) was married 18th August 1844 at Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire, to Maria Loveland who was born at St Pancras, London 13th December 1829 and baptised 4th January 1830 to Robert and Maria (nee Sims) Loveland.

William Baragwanath was a boiler maker and died of 'softening of the brain' 21st September 1888 at Graceland, Chicago, Cook Co., Illinois, USA at the age of 68 years 9 months.

William and Maria had three children born in Hertfordshire prior to 1850 and then in about 1851 the first of another seven children was born in Chicago.

CT

[snydly]

Looking back at an earlier post I found something which confused me:

Daniel Michell bp. 1st January 1779 at Zennor was the son of Samuel Michell and Jane Edwards who married 12th March 1776 at Zennor.

(was Daniel) **Samuel** had been previously married to Elizabeth Christopher 29th July 1763 at Zennor.

Is this a typo above on your part ?


And this part contradicts something written earlier in the same post:

Daniel Michell and Ann Phillips - just to help clarify things a little.

Daniel Michell was resident at Penzance when he died in 1848 and had married Anne Phillips at Zennor 28th December 1800.

This Daniel was baptised at Zennor 28th December 1772 son of Robert Michell and Jane Quick who married at Towednack 30th December 1763.

This has me confused as well as it contradicts this :

She was baptised at Zennor 24th December 1826 and was the last of nine children of Daniel Michell and Sarah Phillips who married at Zennor 30th December 1804.

Help !! Are you getting Anne and Sarah confused with each other?

[Cornish Terrier]

(was Daniel) **Samuel** had been previously married to Elizabeth Christopher 29th July 1763 at Zennor.

Is this a typo above on your part ?

No, Samuel (meaning Daniel's father) had been previously married to Elizabeth Christopher by whom he had four children that I am aware of - Jane (1764), Elizabeth (1765), Anne (1767) and Samuel (1769-1769).
Daniel was the second child from Samuel's second marriage to Sarah Phillips.

And this part contradicts something written earlier in the same post:

Daniel Michell and Ann Phillips - just to help clarify things a little.

Daniel Michell was resident at Penzance when he died in 1848 and had married Anne Phillips at Zennor 28th December 1800.

I am not sure what is confusing you about this.
The Daniel who married Anne Phillips was the son of Robert Michell and Jane Quick and he was baptised at Zennor 28th December 1772 as I said.
He married Anne Phillips at Zennor 28th December 1800 and when he died in 1848 the burial register records that he was 'of Penzance' which means that he was living at Penzance at the time of his death and was brought back to Zennor for burial.

She was baptised at Zennor 24th December 1826 and was the last of nine children of Daniel Michell and Sarah Phillips who married at Zennor 30th December 1804

Not sure just where in the conversation this was but the 'last of nine children' of Daniel and Sarah was Catherine Michell baptised 5th September 1819 at Zennor. She married John Hocking at Zennor 16th March 1844.

Hope that helps.

CT