Post by Cornish Terrier on Apr 3, 2007 12:55:47 GMT -5
Whilst searching the 1930 US Census the other night I found an interesting one to add to my Collection.
East Brunswick, Schuylkill, Pennsylvania
John Trewhella age 42 - born CZECHOSLOVAKIA Lucy Trewhella - wife Children:- Anna Mary Susan Lucy Helen Nicholas Stephen Elizabeth Peter Wash
I know of Trewhella (var.) in UK, USA, Russia, Italy, Chile, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and know of individuals who were recorded in Mexico, Bolivia and maybe a couple of other 'out of the way' places. But this is the first one I know of from Czechoslovakia!
With a son (who appears to be the first son) being named Nicholas I have to wonder if he has any connection with the Russian family.
I checked the full entries for you, since I know you cannot get the images, but only the index.
It actually says that John and Lucy were born in Austria, with the word Czech written above it. I believe that means they were born in what was then Austria, but was Czechoslovakia by 1930. This would seem to be confirmed by the fact that their native language is given as Slovak.
They are both unnaturalized, and the year of immigration is listed as 'unknown', but as all the children (ages 21 - 1) are born in the US, it would appear they must have arrived ca. 1908.
Post by Cornish Terrier on Apr 4, 2007 14:14:03 GMT -5
Hmmm! - And I also suggest some checks of historical geography! Austria, birthplace of 'the Little Corporal' is still just that - Austria. It's Northern border is with Czechoslovakia but that is about it. If I recall correctly, Austria was never a part of the USSR as opposed to it's Northern neighbour. With the start of the breakdown of Communism there were divisions over that Northern border and we now have what is known as 'the Czech Replublic'. The 'Slovak' side is, I believe, now it's own entity again but I cannot recall it's new name and cannot find the right book at the moment to CHECK on it. However, Austria has survived to this day without subjecting to takeovers.
But I am sure I have found 'Wash Trewhella' in other documents which I cannot find right now. I certainly have seen his name - but where?
Now here I am going to have to argue with you. The Austrian Empire was once much much larger than the present country calling itself "Austria." When Czechoslovakia was created after WWI, some sections of it had formerly belonged to Austria. It would be one of those sections that the Trubilllas came from.
I recently saw something similar with a family I was looking into for a friend - they listed their birthplaces on the earlier census as "Hungary", but later as "Rumania." Turned out the the part of Hungary they came from was later ceeded to Romania, so the location changed names. A further difficulty is that they used the Hungarian versions of the town names, making them a bit tricky to locate as they are now renamed with Romanian names; Szinte had become Cintie for instance.
Also, I rechecked the original 1930 census entry and blew it up to 200% and compared the various b's and h's on the page. The name is actually spelled "Trewbilla."
I would normally fault Ancestry's notariously bad indexing on this one, but it is hard to make out when you are not familiar with either name, as most people would not be...
Post by Cornish Terrier on Apr 6, 2007 15:44:02 GMT -5
OK - so you are right - AND I am right. I have never delved right into the Political border changes in Europe except to know there were quite a few. But Austria itself (even if part had been eroded), to my knowledge, has never ceased to be. (Another quick look at your post shows you mention the 'Austrian Empire' so I can more clearly see your point.)
On your point about the spelling in the Index - I can see what you say but still need further investigation to be fully conviinced. You see, I have also found an entry in the 1880 US Census for:-
John TREWPELLA and family living at McIntyre, Lycoming, Pennsylvania. John was aged 30, born England and was a Blacksmith. His wife was Ellen.
Now I no longer have the 'image' of this but I do remember some details and, as I recall, there was the name 'Carbis' mentioned in the household. (Don't hold me to this but I do seem to recollect it and made a mental note to look at it again later.)
However, I am 'almost' certain this John TREWPELLA is the son of William TREWELLA and Mary (nee MOORE) who was born around Redruth in 1849. He was, at the time of his marriage in 1870, a 'blacksmith, of Trelowarren Street' and his wife was Ellen CARBIS. (Marriage took place at Camborne)
So I have to look at any reference that may ultimately turn out to be 'one of mine'.
Post by Cornish Terrier on Apr 6, 2007 16:35:25 GMT -5
I'd like to through another little piece of information into this thread to see what you might think! I have already suggested (or wondered at) a possible link to the Trewheellar (var.) family who went to Russia in about 1812/13. (As the name was spelt in many different ways in this family I will work with TREWHELER as that was the surname used by Nicholas when he died in Canada in 1971.)
John and Ann Trewheler were married sometime before November, 1810. Son Richard was born in Woolwich, Kent November 9th, 1810 and became a senior officer in one of the Foreign Regiments of the Russian Army. His brother, John Coulter Trewheler, was born in Woolwich March 23rd, 1813. It was soon after this, apparently, that his father John and mother Ann (MN unknown but possibly Coulter) moved their family to Russia. John was a Wheelwright and apparently found work at the Arsenal at Tula. (Some of this is recorded in the likes of 'Baedeker's Handbook of Russia' but with the date of emigration stated as about 1712 which I have proved incorrect.) The next known child of John and Ann Trewheler was William Frederick who became a Subaltern in the Lancers and was killed during a Polish rising sometime before 1863. Then there was Robert Snow Trewheler (obviously named for his grandmother Martha Snow), Michael, Charles and two daughters.
Much of this information comes from Nicholas Trewheler who died in Canada in 1971.
According to letters I have seen from Nicholas Trewheler - 'Michael entered the Public Works Department, married a Russian girl and had at least one son. Either Michael or his son moved to Omsk, Siberia and Nicholas only ever remembers having seen two members of that family. He did not know if the family survived the Revolution.'
Let me throw in a hypothetical here - What if Michael or some of his family did survive the Revolution? They may well have found their way to Czechoslovakia, Austria, or wherever so we may very well be dealing with descendants of that family.
And I recall many years ago in the State Library in Melbourne, Victoria checking through a book showing the Russian version of English Surnames. The Russian version of Trewheler was - TRUVELER
Make what you want of that but I still think the 'pursuit is on'!
Post by Cornish Terrier on Apr 8, 2007 14:18:24 GMT -5
I have just received a JPEG Image of the relevant page of the 1930 Census. It is very difficult to read and I may need to try a few different methods to enhance the image quality. However, best look so far appears to show the name as recorded in the Index - TREWHELLA. It 'could be TREWHILLA or, as you say TREWBILLA' - but I am willing to try and pursue it as best I can to find out one way or the other. As mentioned in my last, there was part of the 'clan' from Russia who was 'lost' and there is (at least) a chance that this could be part of them.
Details of the Cornwall-Russia-NZ connection. Probably incomplete but these are a resume of the known details
John Simon Trewheellar (1794-?) left UK 1818 apparently on the invitation of the Russian Govt., with wife and 2 sons. John and Ann married in Penrhyn. He became director of the Arsenals in Tula. 2 sons.
Michael married a russian and with 1 son moved to Omsk, Siberia. This family died in 1918 Revolution.
Other son Richard also married a Russian and rose to the rank of Major-General in the Hussar Regiment. He and his only son Nicholas (b. c1843) remained British subjects. Nicholas was educated in Russia and entered the Russian Navy (married a Miss Hughes of Sussex) and at some time later resigned when he was required to become a Russian citizen. The family returned to England but could not settle down, so he returned to Russia with wife and two daughters and became a Russian citizen. His three sons remained in England to be educated. Nicolas died in St Petersburg in 1916. Son Vladimir (b. c 1875) returned to Russia and joined its navy and was killed in the Russo-Japanese war. He had no family.
Anatole (b. c1881), remained in England, became an civil engineer but went to Rhodesia soon after WW1, to take up a pub. He married but had no children.
Nicholas b 1889. also remained in England and also became a civil engineer. Went to Siam and then mining in Dutch West Borneo. Never married and went back to England in 1939 and NZ relatives lost contact. Possibly the same Nicholas mentioned above who died in 1971.
Now the NZ branch.
Thomas Trewheellar b. c 1894 parents Richard & Martha (Snow). Apparently quarelled with parents and left home, never to return. His daughter's (Marth Ann) death certificate states he was a "coach painter". Married Dinah Theresa Goodson in London. In the 1841 census his daughter (12) is a scholar in her uncle Johns family of Great Queen Street (a Johns married Elizabeth Small Goodson), and as a servant in the 1851 census. She married Dr William Henry Philip Dakers and emigrated to New Zealand soon after with two of her male cousins Johns, and met there her brother Thomas, who had in 1856 married in NZ, a Johns sister (his cousin). Martha Ann Dakers had several children, of which most died within days or months of birth, and only one surviving until 14. Nothing is known of Thomas Trewheellar (senior) except that he and his sons remained in contact with the Russian families for some time. Thomas (junior) was probably a lighterman in London and was a captain of small vessels for a short time on the NZ coast. But, perhaps under the influence of his Johns cousins, became a biscuit manufacturer with a special interest in supplying bulk to the local ships!!
His son Joshua Thomas Samuel Trewheellar (named possibly after the Johns uncles), nicknamed Foma, the Russian form of Thomas. He married yet another cousin Johns, and the Trewheellar name is now present in NZ and Australia through his sons and grandsons.
Post by Cornish Terrier on Sept 5, 2008 7:59:06 GMT -5
nzjohn1 thankyou for the information provided in your post. Much of it I already had but there are some welcome additions most notable of which is probably the fact that Martha Trewheellar was found in the 1841 and 1851 Census.
I have now found her myself but it was only because you mentioned that she was with Johns relatives in each case.
Probably would never have found her otherwise given the way her surname was interpreted and entered in the index!
In 1851 I read it clearly as Trewheller yet the indexer transcribed it as Trawhilled and in 1841 I hesitate to think how it is indexed as I have tried many variables with nil result.
However, she is found!
Now for some questions, comment and additions from myself.
I have to question the comment that John and Ann were married at Penryn as I have searched all the PRs and never found that detail. I think it more likely they married somewhere in London or possibly Kent but, again, I have not found a record of the event.
But is it possible they were never married in England at all?
Perhaps John had been to Europe before and they were married there - I don't know.
But I do suspect that Ann 'may' have been Ann Coulter - a suspicion that perhaps cannot be confirmed until we locate details of the marriage.
Many years ago I had correspondence with a Dr Hugh Torrens from one of the Universities in England and he supplied me with some further information on the family as did Thurston Trewheellar in NZ who had copies of correspondence from Nicholas Trewheler.
When I was in London in 1994 I did some research and found baptisms for the first two known sons of John and Ann.
Richard Truewheellar Born Woolwich, Kent 9th Novembr 1810 Baptised St Mary Magdalene, Woolwich 14th July 1811
John Coulter Trewheellar Born Woolwich, Kent 23rd March 1813 Baptised St Mary Magdalene, Woolwich 23rd March 1813
Other children were William Frederick, Robert Snow, Michael, Charles and two daughters.
Richard was an Officer in the Russian Pioneer Guards and I have a photo of him in his uniform.
Married and, as you say, had one son - Nicholas. (More later.)
John - according to the younger Nicholas John was born in Russia (Kent PRs disprove this) unless John Coulter Trewheellar died young and there was another John born later. However, John apparently had no issue and nothing more is known of him.
William Frederick was a Subaltern in the Lancers and never married. He was killed sometime before 1863 during a Polish rising. (Polish risings were 1830, 1846, 1848, 1861 and 1863).
According to Dr Hugh Torrens William left the Institut fur Wegeingenieure as an Engineer-Lieutenant in 1829 with his brother Richard.
Robert had no sons and, again according to Dr Torrens, left the Institut fur Wegeingenieure in 1838, possibly as an Engineer-Lieutenant like his brothers.
Michael entered the Public Works Department and married a Russian girl. He had at least one son. In letters from Nicholas Trewheler it is stated that either Michael or his son moved to Omsk and Nicholas only remembers having seen two members of that family and did not know if the family survived the Revolution.
Charles was supposedly born in Russia but nothing further is known of him.
Nothing is known of the two daughters.
Richard Trewheellar (b. 1810) died at Montreux, Siwtzerland 21st October 1872, age 62. (I have a copy of his Death Certificate)
His son, Nicholas, was born about 1843 in Russia and married Sarah Jane Hughes about 1873. Sarah was apparently born in Sussex about 1845 and, according to Nicholas Trewheler, had a brother with family living in England. This brother may have been Rev. Harry George Hughes of Norwich who was her attorney as mentioned in the Will of Nicholas Trewheler. And Sarah was supposedly of Welsh descent.
Sarah apparently died in Oslo, Norway in 1926 at the age of 81. Nicholas died at 5 Ordinarnaia St, Petrograd on 23rd October 1914. (I have a copy of his Will)
They had five children.
Vladimir - born about 1875, joined the Russian Navy and was killed in 1905 in the Yellow Sea during the Russo-Japanese war.
Katherine - born Russia and did not marry. In a letter from her brother Nicholas to Thurston Trewheellar in 1937 he said she was living in Norway and still a spinster. She is mentioned in his Will (1960) as sole beneficiary unless she predecease him. In a codicil dated March 13, 1962, Nicholas mentions his nephew, George von Veymarn as solve beneficiary. I now know that Katherine died in 1954 and was buried in the Cemetery at Vernon, British Columbia, Canada in the same plot as her brother Nicholas.
Anatole - born Russia about 1883 and died sometime before 1957, presumably in Rhodesia. He was a Civil Engineer and had completed his studies in England. He married Blanch Maria Dodd at the Paddington Register Office 1st October 1930 (I have Marriage Certificate) at which time he was living at the Court Royal Hotel, Lancaster Gate. Blanch had been previously twice married to 1. Newton and 2. Haworth and she died at Pretoria, South Africa in 1957.
Elizabeth - born Russia about 1886 and in 1939 was living in Calgary, BC with her husband. Married Paul von Veymarn 29th August 1908 at Croydon Register Office and the marriage was witnessed by Sarah Jane Trewheler (mother) and Anatole Trewheler (brother). (I have that Certificate) One known son, George, but I known nothing more of him at the moment. I presume he was born in Surrey but have not checked.
Nicholas - born about 1888 in Russia and was also a Civil Engineer having studied in England. Author of several letters to Thurston Trewheellar in NZ and died at Vernon, BC, Canada 20th July 1971. His address then was 4000-25th Av, Vernon, BC according to his Will of which I have a copy. Buried with sister Katherine and never married.
The only other information I can provide on this family is something I found a couple of days ago whilst searching TimesOnLine.
29th January 1908 - The Princess of Wales's Appeal Captain Nicholas Trewheler of the Russian Imperial Navy donated 2 pounds, 12 shillings and 9 pence.
This would be the elder Nicholas who married Sarah Hughes.
5th March 1918 - The London Gazette - Special Reserve of Officers 2nd Lts to be Lts - A. Trewheler
14th July 1920 - The London Gazette - Special Reserve of Officers 3rd Regiment Lancashire Infantry N. Trewheler relinquished commission as Lt.
The NZ part of the family.
I have been to New Zealand and met Thurston Trewheellar whilst I was there after having corresponded with him for a number of years.
You will probably know as much as, if not more than, I of the family in NZ so I will concentrate mainly on the earlier isde of things in England.
No baptism record has ever, to my knowledge, been found for Thomas Trewheellar but we know he was probably born about the 1790s and was as far as I know the youngest of four children to Richard and Martha (nee Snow) who were married at St Gluvias 24th July 1784.
I can take this family back for you if you wish.
The other two siblings were sisters. Martha Tremeling Trewheellar was baptised 27th May 1787 at St Gluvias and was buried at Stoke Damerel, Devon 2nd November 1791 which suggests the family had left Cornwall possibly for good by this time.
The other sister was Ann who was baptised at Stoke Damerel 31st January 1790. According to Nicholas Trewheler Ann was married in Russia to someone named Clark and I know nothing more.
But back to Thomas. Married Dinah Theresa Goodson 31st August 1822 at St Mary, Newington, Surrey. Dinah is supposed to have died in September 1835 but I have no confirmation of this or any further details.
I do know that Thomas remarried.
26th July 1836 at St Mary, Edge Hill, Lancashire Thomas Trewheellar, widower Mary Ann Callan, widow (nee Parker)
Thomas was deceased prior to 1850 when Mary Ann Trewheellar, widow, married Thomas Beech at St Mary, Edge Hill, Lancs. on 24th December 1850.
As I have been unable to find Thomas in the 1841 Census it is difficult to know just when he died. There is also no record of a death for him in the St Catherine's House Index.
Thomas and Dinah had four children:-
Richard Barnes born 9th June 1823 at Walworth, Surrey and baptised St Mary, Newington 12th October 1823. The family was then living at Kennington St, Walworth.
Dinah Theresa born 17th April 1825 and baptised 26th March 1826 at St Mary, Newington, Surrey. At this time the family was living at Marylebone, MDX.
Martha Ann of whom you know.
Thomas you also know although I am unsure if you are aware that he married twice also?
He died at Picton, NSW 14th March 1889 and was buried in the Picton Cemetery 15th March 1889.
10 children on whom I have quite a bit of information if you require it.
Finally, for this note, I would like a copy of the Death Certificate for Martha Dakers.
Would it be possible to scan a copy and send it to me by email??
And I would also like what details you have about her children.
I know she had a son Henry Thomas James Dakers in 1855 plus an unnamed child (sex unknown) and another son but that is all I know.
Must leave you to digest this and we can discuss it more at a later date.
You have made my day and it will certainly take time to process all your details and check them against mine. I note that you have some from Thurston T. Many of mine come also from him through my father's notes (1950-60's) gained from the family. Must check carefully to see where memory/transcription may have lapsed. The Daker's data are mine - spent a lot of time on them and there are many chasms in the data. Dr Dakers - he was always this to the family - in his profession I suspect was a bit of a no-hoper. Always complaining about his circumstances and did not settle down for any long period. He practiced in many towns (at least 8) and for a period sold life/medical insurance. It was during that period that he travelled for six months on horseback and kept a diary which makes most interesting reading. I have transcribed it and hope to publish it. He and Martha were in Hamilton just before Thomas and his new wife left NZ for Sydney. 2 years ago I searched for Martha's grave in Invercargill. Found the area and paid my respects. It is a now unmarked grass site and there are no details in the Cemetery records apart from the mapped approximate site. So far as I know Dr Dakers has disappeared from all NZ records a year after her death. I know that his father was Philip a solicitor. Apart from a few comments in his diary of 1885 Dr Dakers made few comments regarding Martha - he was sending her money for travel and buying chickens for her flock.
Will assemble all my records of the family and get them to you.
I have the very basic details of the direct Trewheellar line back to Robert Trewhella (1582- 1628), just names and some dates.
Many thanks for for all the additional info and notes
Post by Cornish Terrier on Nov 15, 2008 13:26:47 GMT -5
Afraid I have to disappoint you on that one as I know pretty much all about our miscreant James Grenfell TREWHELLA.
He was born at Madron in 1831 s/o James Grenfell and Elizabeth TREWHELLA.
His father James was born at Paul in 1809 s/o Henry and Jane and although it seems odd this is the marriage of Henry and Jane:-
Henry TREVELA married Jane GRENFELL 4th June 1803 at St Just in Penwith
This is as far back as I have ever been able to get with Henry.
I know he was 'of St Just' when married and that he was born about 1780 and that is all.
However, there is nothing to suggest that he had any links outside of West Penwith and I have no record of him being ever further East than the Madron/Penzance area.
But I am very happy you posted this note.
I have, in recent times, begun some preliminary research prior to answering some queries and in this case was prompted to have another look at Sarah Jane HUGHES who married Nicholas TREWHELER.
(All detailed in previous notes on this thread.)
I can now say that tonight I have finally identified her!
I had been stuck with the thought that her brother in England was Harry George HUGHES who was named as her 'attorney' in the Will of her husband Nicholas in 1926.
And that was my mistake - concentrating solely on the probability that this was her brother!
It proves, in fact, that Harry George HUGHES was actually her nephew. (So I was not far out after all.)
Here is an outline of her family - with a little surprise at the end!
Sarah's parents were:-
Henry HUGHES born about 1813 Lewes, Sussex He died at Lewes in 1876 aged 62.
Susanna HUGGETT born 12th November 1807 at Lewes, Sussex Baptised 3rd January 1808 at St Michael's, Lewes Died 1868 at Lewes age 60.
Henry HUGHES married Susanna HUGGETT 4th February 1839 at St Michael's, Lewes, Sussex
It appears Henry and Susanna had only two children:-
Henry Huggett HUGHES born 1842 at Lewes died 1895 at Abingdon, Berkshire, age 53.
Sarah Jane HUGHES born 1845 at Lewes
Henry Huggett HUGHES married Frances PACKHAM at Lewes in 1867.
They had eight children:-
HARRY GEORGE born 1868 Thatcham, Berkshire Winifred Frances born 1870 Abingdon, Berkshire Christabel born 1871 Abingdon Evelyn born 1875 Abingdon Maybell born 1879 Abingdon Hilda born 1881 Abingdon Harold born 1884 Abingdon Ella Mary born 1887 Abingdon
So now we know where the Rev. Harry George HUGHES fits into the picture.
To gather a lot of the information on this family I searched through every Census and noted what I found.
But when I came to the 1901 Census I nearly fell backwards!
By this time Frances was widowed:-
1901 Census - Berkshire
14 Market Place, Abingdon
Frances HUGHES, head, wid., 55, bookseller, stationer and fruiterer, Lewes, Sussex Evelyn do., daur, 24, bookseller's assistant, Abingdon, Berkshire Maybell do., daur, 21, music teacher, Abingdon, Berkshire Hilda do., daur, 20, bookseller's assistant, Abingdon, Berkshire Harold do., son, 17, Abingdon, Berkshire Ella do., daur, 14, Abingdon, Berkshire OLGA TREWHELER, niece, 21, living on own means, RUSSIA, REVAL (Russian Subject) Edith L WOOD, niece, 10, Ardington, Berkshire
Edith WOOD was the daughter of Frances' sister Laura.
But what about OLGA TREWHELER!
I remember seeing this record when I searched the Census a long time ago but had forgotten it because at the time I had no idea of who she could be or where she belonged.
Now I know just where she 'should' belong but .......
Being a niece of Frances HUGHES indicates that she 'should' be the daughter of Henry HUGHES' sister Sarah Jane who had married Nicholas TREWHELER.
BUT - she was not mentioned in any of the letters I have seen from her brother Nicholas to Thurston TREWHEELLAR.
I will end this note now while I do a little study and research to see what I can deduce about Olga.
Post by Cornish Terrier on Nov 15, 2008 15:36:52 GMT -5
Olga TREWHELER - as stated in my previous she 'must' be a daughter of Nicholas and Sarah Jane TREWHELER.
However I had never known of her and there was no mention of her in copies of letters I have from Nicholas.
Having just re-read those letters (dated 1936, 1937 and 1939) and also some other information in my possession I have formed an opinion.
In the letters written by Nicholas TREWHELER he mentiones his brothers by name and he also names two sisters, Katherine and Elizabeth.
From his letter dated 27th January 1737, Pontianak, Dutch West Borneo I quoteL- "The only survivors of the John S. branch are my two sisters and brother. They are Katherine living in Norway, Anatole whom I mentioned before, Elizabeth at present in Calgary with her husband who is ex-Russian Navy, now a naturalized Norwegian, and boring for oil in Alberta, and myself the youngest."
A reltive of mine, Benjamin Hosking TREWHELLA, wrote a booklet about the Trewhella family in about 1972 and he mentions having correspondence from Anatole TREWHELER in 1948 from which I quite:- "My elder sister served as a nurse in Manchuria during the Russia-Japanese war, and a younger sister, a doctor, served in Russia and Poland between 1914 and 1921."
The main points here are:-
1. The only survivors of the John S. branch are my two sisters and brother - ref. Nicholas 1939
2. a younger sister, a doctor, served in Russia and Poland between 1914 and 1921 - ref. Anatole 1948
Nicholas specifies and names the only surviving members of the family in 1939 and had previously mentioned his remaining brother Vladimir having died in 1905.
In his first letter of 1936 Nicholas mentions his sisters but does not name them nor indicate how many there were. He merely states that 'my sisters were also naturalized so as to be able to inherit my grandmother's estate'.
In 1948 Anatole mentions 'my elder sister' which seems to indicate she was the only older sister.
But then he mentions 'a younger sister' which seems to indicate there may be more than one.
But things are not quite so cut and dried unfortunately.
The family currently stands as follows:-
VLADIMIR - born about 1875 and died 1905 Information supplied in letters by Nicholas Trewheler.
KATHERINE - born about 1878 and died 1954 Plaque on grave in Vernon Cemetery, Calagary bears the dates "1878-1954".
ANATOLE - born about 1881 according to Nicholas. Stated age at marriage in 1930 was 47 indicating a birth of about 1883.
ELIZABETH - born about 1886. Information supplied on her marriage certificate in 1908 shows her age as 22.
NICHOLAS - born 1888 and died 1971 Buried in same plot as sister Katherine in Vernon Cemetery, Calgary
Anatole states that "a younger sister, a doctor, served in Russia and Poland between 1914 and 1921"
This is clearly not Katherine which, at the moment, would indicate that it was Elizabeth.
But Elizabeth was married in 1908 at the age of 22.
I should think this would have been too young, even then, to have been a doctor and it is known that she had a son, George, so I doubt very much that she would have been serving as a doctor in Russia and Poland during those years.
This means that there must have been another sister.
There is still a problem however.
The sister must have been OLGA but in the 1901 Census she stated her age as 21 which would suggest she was born about 1879 or 1880 and, based on the information we have, would make her 'older' than Anatole.
So - did Anatole misquote his age when he married Blanche and if so by how much?
I now know that Blanche was incorrect in stating she was 48 when she married Anatole because I have found that she was actually born in 1877 which would have made her about 53.
But if Katherine was older than Anatole then he would have been born about 1879 or 1880.
Of course there is no guarantee that the year of birth recorded on Katherine's grave is accurate and she could have been born a year or so earlier also.
And again based on the letters quoted above - Olga must have died prior to 1837 and probably several years before given there was no mention of her at all by Nicholas.
Oh how nice it would be to have access to the Russian records - if they have survived.
Finally - I did some research regarding Olga's stated birthplace of REVAL.
It is now known as TALLINN and is the Capital of Estonia.