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Post by Cornish Terrier on Dec 1, 2016 13:56:13 GMT -5
Oh yes, of course .... I seem to have managed to get dates messed around in my head! But I do have Susan's death details ...
The last child was daughter Susan born in Cheshire 18th May 1875 - see Image 297 in the Cheshire records. Her mother Susan died soon after on 4th June 1875 at Cheshire. Susan's death is on Image 399 of the same set.
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Post by thatsmejennig on Feb 28, 2017 21:00:37 GMT -5
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Mar 1, 2017 1:53:25 GMT -5
No, this is Henry Trewella son of William Trewella and Mary Roberts who was born at Illogan 21st April 1830 and baptized there 2nd May 1830. Henry married Martha Richards at Illogan 27th July 1854 and left for the US soon after. The two children in the 1860 Census image are daughters Susie and Mary but I think they are recorded in reverse order here. Nevertheless one was definitely born in Connecticut and the other in New Hampshire as shown in this record. This family ended up in Virginia City where Mary married Alexander Pearce in June 1879 and Susie married William Penaluna a couple of months early in March 1879. Henry Trewella died in Storey County Nevada, probably Virginia City, 1st January 1904 having outlived Martha by 10 years. Martha died of Apoplexy at Virginia City 19th May 1894.
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Post by zibetha on Mar 2, 2017 1:27:08 GMT -5
Having read it multiple times, parts of this thread confuse me. I realize that it is from trying to piece together the whole story from the beginning. It seems we are addressing three Susans? Susan Josephine who was the daughter of Henry Trewhela and Martha Richards, Susan possible daughter of Matthew Trewhella and Margaret Diantha Hotchkiss (whose brother Solomon married into my US Hemenway family ) and then an older Susan who married William Schollar. I don't know who Henry Trewella was, but if from Illogan he seems to possibly track with the family of William Trewhella and Jane White? which would relate to "Citroen Lady's" branch. An update/overview would be very helpful at this point! Thanks, Zib
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Mar 2, 2017 8:49:36 GMT -5
Yes, Zib, it is rather confusing! And I had to do a little checking before posting my last reply as well. Probably the simplest way to deal with this is to just give a brief outline of each of the three Susans involved with just enough information to identify each. If there are questions after that then hopefully it will be easier to follow.
1. Susan F Trewhella - apparently born Grass Valley 8th August 1857 but we still need to see some source records. She was the daughter of Matthew Trewhella and Margaret Dianthe Hotchkiss and married Thomas Edward Hurlbut at Seymour, CT in 1882. Online information suggests most of the children up to at least 1872 were born in Grass Valley, CA yet the 1870 Census (family indexed as Drewlee) finds the family back at Cheshire, CT. Three surviving children in this census have their birthplaces recorded as Connecticut! I still find much of these Grass Valley references questionable. For example we have Matthew H Trewhella (3rd child of Matthew and Margaret) whose birth details online state that he was born at Grass Valley 9th February 1861. This is most questionable because the Cheshire records clearly show that he was born at Cheshire, CT, on that same date!! It is also notable that he died at Cheshire 23rd March 1864
2. Susie J Trewella (daughter of Henry and Martha) is mentioned in the previous post.
3. Susan Trewhella who married William Schollar remains an unknown but seems most likely to have been a daughter of (if memory serves correctly) Matthew Trewhella and Juliana Lanyon. This by virtue of the fact that she is supposed to have been born in Connecticut and is yet to be proven.
Sorry if this post 'seems' incomplete but I have just spent the last five hours or so out at fires caused by lightning strikes. If there are any questions at all about the three Susans I will be happy to try and provide answers and explanations.
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Post by zibetha on Mar 2, 2017 23:34:49 GMT -5
Thanks, CT,
Your summary was very helpful. Sorry to hear of the fires.
Zib
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Mar 3, 2017 5:15:15 GMT -5
Happy that the information provided was helpful but certainly give me a nudge if you think I can help further with these girls. BTW - the fires were not serious but they did keep a lot of fire brigades busy for several hours. Our first tanker was just about to turn out for the first call but I think two more calls came in before the truck got off the apron! After that we got several more calls in the district so there were trucks going all over the place. All caused by a lightning storm that seemed to come and go almost in no time! CT
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Post by thatsmejennig on Apr 25, 2017 11:26:25 GMT -5
Marriage of Mathew Trewhella and Margaret Diantha Hotchkiss I can't figure out how to insert an image, but I just found
U.S., Newspaper Extractions from the Northeast, 1704-1930 Connecticut New Haven Columbian Register Marriage 1851-1858
and it had the indexed entry for Mathew and Margaret's marriage as Newspaper date Oct 4 1856 Names (last names cut off) Mathew/Margaret Of Grace Valley/Bethany At San Francisco Date August 30
All this time, I never looked for San Francisco marriage records for them
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Post by spikeharwood on Apr 25, 2017 17:15:49 GMT -5
I can't figure out how to insert an image, Instead of using the "Quick Reply" button on the left of the Post box, use the "Reply" button on the right. This opens up to reveal several options including formatting and inserting images.
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Post by thatsmejennig on Apr 26, 2017 8:02:21 GMT -5
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 8, 2017 6:59:34 GMT -5
Sorry to be so late replying to this but it is a really excellent find! It took me quite a while to track down the item for myself but I did so eventually and now have the complete link noted in my database. Unfortunately I haven't yet found a more complete image of the page but this will certainly suffice until that situation is rectified. CT
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Post by thatsmejennig on May 18, 2017 9:30:52 GMT -5
Sorry to be so late replying to this but it is a really excellent find! It took me quite a while to track down the item for myself but I did so eventually and now have the complete link noted in my database. Unfortunately I haven't yet found a more complete image of the page but this will certainly suffice until that situation is rectified. CT I know I hate that the copy isn't better as well, but I was super excited when I found it! Although it only adds to the mystery since I can't find any San Francisco records, I'm sure because of the earthquake and fire and I'm wondering if perhaps Susan and Margaret Jane were actually born in SF as well rather than Grass Valley. I still don't understand why they would marry out there rather than CT before they left, seems odd that her family would allow her to travel across the country unmarried. I'm going to work on digging into her family a bit more and see if I can't find if any of her side went out west. It still bugs me that all of the CT Trewhellas and Lanyons except for Juliana Lanyon Trewhella's brothers Henry and James are NOWHERE to be found in 1860
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 18, 2017 12:37:28 GMT -5
Many California records cannot be found for one reason or another. With some it may simply be that records have not been digitized yet and with some it will be because they have not survived but you must remember that compulsory registration of BMDs was a 'thing of the future' way back then and some in some States it did not come into force until well after 1900. Records that were kept would generally have been at the County Court House.
I have also been frustrated over the years about the location of this Trewhella family in 1860 and concluded that they may have been somewhere in Canada. I do know that Matthew and Julia's daughter Ann was in Newfoundland in 1864 and 1870 as two children were born there. (Ann had married Matthew Curnow at Cheshire April 12th 1863 according to an old but as yet unproven source). If Matthew and Ann Curnow were In Newfoundland at that time then it is possible the Trewhella family might have been there a few years earlier.
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Post by sue on May 20, 2017 13:26:40 GMT -5
Whilst searching again for any useful Connecticut records beyond those on FS etc., I came across this which may perhaps not have records for the where & when being looked for at the moment, but might be of use to some, if they aren't already aware of it.... dunhamwilcox.net/0_ct-index.htmSue
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 20, 2017 18:01:42 GMT -5
Sell Sue it seems you have done it again! I have seen some of these records before but there do appear to be additions since I last checked. It is also possible that I had never checked right through the relevant towns in the past as I may not have known just where to look. However, having decided to take a quick glance to see what was here I found some records for Seymour, New Haven, CT and found TWO records I had not previously seen! The first was the record of marriage for Thomas Hurlbut and Susan Trewhella for which I already had details but no source. But it is the second record that is of more interest to me and, no doubt, to everyone else interested in this family. The entry of interest is found in Vital Statistics of Seymour, Conn. Vol. 2. to Dec. 31st., 1891. Compliled by W.C. Sharpe and is recorded under DEATHS 1883Mabel Trewhella, b. Colorado, aged 7 years, Sept. 21.This is most interesting for two reasons - firstly that she was born in Colorado and secondly because I believe she must be the daughter of Matthew and Margaret Trewhella! Actually that may not be completely accurate. I have Mabel in my database as a child of Matthew and Margaret but I am now more inclined to think that she was actually their granddaughter Mabel KEAM, particularly as Matthew and Margaret had an unnamed son recorded as being born June 28th 1876 and on September 18th 1876 an unnamed daughter was recorded for Harry Keam and Susan Trewhella. In the 1880 Census for Cheshire we find Maggie Williams (Margaret Jane Trewhella) as the head of house. With her is sister Susie Keam (Susan F Trewhella) and niece Mabel who was then age 3. Susie married Thomas Hurlbut in 1882 under the name of Trewhella so it appears she returned to her maiden name after splitting with Harry Keam. It follows logically that daughter Mabel would probably also have been then known as Trewhella. The 'odd' part now is the recording of Mabel's birthplace as Colorado when she died. In 1880 her birthplace is recorded as Connecticut while her mother and aunt were born in California. The birthplace of Mabel's father is recorded in 1880 as having been Canada. I think I will be looking at these records a little more closely now and with a good deal of interest! CT
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