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Post by genie on May 4, 2009 14:43:04 GMT -5
In the 1891 census taken at Ludgvan Folio 70 page 6 were
John Trembath,Head,M,74,Stone Breaker,Employed,Ludgvan Cornwall,,Elizabeth Trembath,Wife,M,,69,Ludgvan Cornwall,
James Thomas Beare ,Nephew,S,33,,Stone Breaker,Employed,Ludgvan Cornwall,
My interest lies with James Thomas Bear the nephew.
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Post by newlyn on May 4, 2009 15:05:06 GMT -5
In the 1871 census there is a Bear family living in Portreath, Illogan.
John Bear Head b.1831
Ann Wife b. 1830
Children are:
Elizabeth b. 1857
William b. 1859
James T b. 1862
Samuel H b. 1864
Mary J b. 1866
Charles E b.1870
All born in Cornwall
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Post by genie on May 4, 2009 15:14:49 GMT -5
Thanks for that.
I had a look at the 1871 census and it says that James Beare was born at Portreath but in the 1891 census James was born at Ludgvan which is where my Beare's came from.
I will have to find out if a Beare married a Trembath.
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Post by newlyn on May 4, 2009 15:27:54 GMT -5
I have now found Thomas Bear James born 10.5.1857 Ludgvan.
Parents were John James and Marianne.
Perhaps the Bear's in the above 1871 census are not related after all.
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Post by newlyn on May 4, 2009 15:37:34 GMT -5
There was a Mary Louisa Bear born 2.6.1838 Ludgvan.
Parents are William Bear and ANN Trewren who married 20.4.1833 Ludgvan
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 5, 2009 2:42:31 GMT -5
Newlyn - you are quite correct with that baptism.
In 1891 the nephew is actually Thomas Bear JAMES, age 33, born Ludgvan.
And the relationship would appear to be through the wife of John Trembath.
FreeBMD marriages show a marriage in the June Qtr of 1842 for a John TREMBATH.
Multiple marriages on the page but there is an Elizabeth JAMES so I suspect this will be the marriage.
Not sure where the BEAR name comes from yet.
Richard JAMES married Margaret JAMES 23rd March 1816 Ludgvan
Elizabeth d/o Richard and Margaret bp. 16th December 1821 Ludgvan
Mary Ann d/o Richard and Margaret bp. 11th December 1836 Ludgvan
CT
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Post by davidkingmartin on May 5, 2009 12:56:28 GMT -5
My "pennyworth".
This is curious. 1891 Census, as displayed by Ancestry.co:
Thomas Beas James, b Ludgvan, nephew of John Trembath whose wife is Elizabeth.
David
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Post by HeatherC on May 5, 2009 13:47:44 GMT -5
Hello All  Could this be the link? Freebmd Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Dec 1856 Bear Mary Ann Penzance 5c 539 James John Penzance 5c 539 Nicholls Henry Penzance 5c 539 THOMAS Ann Penzance 5c 539 Thomas Bear James was born 1857 Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Births Jun 1857 James Thomas Bear Penzance 5c 344 Best regards HeatherC |
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 6, 2009 6:39:02 GMT -5
Heather - I would reckon so.  John s/o Richard and Margaret JAMES bp. 26th September 1832 Ludgvan David - I will need to look into that reference to Elizabeth DAVID but I have just searched FreeBMD for a marriage and there is no match for John TREMBATH and Elizabeth DAVID. CT |
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Post by genie on May 7, 2009 3:14:36 GMT -5
There was a Mary Louisa Bear born 2.6.1838 Ludgvan. Parents are William Bear and ANN Trewren who married 20.4.1833 Ludgvan The above family are my ancestors and Mary Louisa Bear/e never married. Now I aren't sure whether Thomas Bear James is connected to them as there was another Bear family in that area. |
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Post by genie on May 12, 2009 13:28:19 GMT -5
Looking through my notes I found that a Robert Bear was on a passenger list in April 7 1919 and he was joining friends ? Trembath in Detroit Michigan. His parents lived in Cornwall.
Robert had been to the US in 1911 and 1916.
I would like information about either of his previous trips in the hope that maybe his next of kin are named.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 12, 2009 13:51:09 GMT -5
Hi Genie - cannot do anything immediately as I really must get some sleep.
But if you would like to drop another note later today it will act as a reminder and I will see what I can find in the Immigration Lists and also possibly the US Census.
CT
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Post by genie on Jun 11, 2009 14:00:45 GMT -5
After leaving a message on another board Robert Beare has been found.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jun 11, 2009 19:03:14 GMT -5
Hi Genie! and Well Done! But where have you left the details?  Please let us know. CT |
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Post by genie on Jun 15, 2009 13:39:31 GMT -5
Robert Bear was on a passenger list on April 7 1919 and he was joining friends ? Trembath in Detroit Michigan. His parents lived in Cornwall. Robert had been to the US in 1911 and 1916.
Someone found this for me:
Majestic departed Southampton, arrived New York 31st May 1911
Robert Beare, age 21, miner, born Ludgvan
Last residence, Ludgvan
Father George Beare, Ludgvan
Going to, Houghton Mich.
Friend, A Hall, address Houghton
Therefore Robert date 1911 is one of the Beare family I have been looking for.
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