I may be able to help you out with the locations of Quay Street and Battery Square being Penzance born and bred myself. Quay Street does still exist. It runs from the harbour up towards the bottom of Chapel Street just in front of St. Mary's Church. The Dock Inn and the Dolphin pub can still be found in Quay Street. Battery Square used to be in the very same area - just a stone's throw away from Quay Street. It was in an area of some very old housing which, I do believe, was condemned and demolished many years ago - before my time even! It was approximately where St. Anthony Gardens now is, which is just across the road from the outdoor bathing pool, where Battery Rocks are located. Coinagehall Street is also still there - the Barbican Arts and Crafts Centre and the Yacht Inn are located there.
Hope to have been of some assistance,
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Thanks to CT and Londoner - most imformative. Peter Young did indeed marry Eliza Blake (6 March 1827 - Madron). When she died in 1852, he married widow Ann Davies (30 December 1853 Madron). She died in 1865 and the following year he married widow Jane Hitchens (11 July 1866 - Madron). Unlucky or should we be a tad suspicious? It looks like the Williams were well known to the Youngs and probably friends. Buy I'll leave them there for now. Back to James Young - does anyone know how we might find out whether there is a headstone for James Young buried 12 March 1788 Madron? I feel that CT is right in that he might be the original James who didn't drown circa 1773/4 - I would so like to find some evidence. Any ideas anyone? Loolah
Hello all you helpful souls out there . Frustrated with the ever elusive James Young (soldier and sojourner) I have been looking at his younger son, Peter Young(c.1774-1831), with whom I'm having a little more luck. He married Sarah Green (Geen?) on 9 April 1799 at St. Ives. She died on 1 August 1845 at Cambourne St., Pz. It seems they spawned a generation of seafarers. 1. Peter Young (1804-1892) master mariner, died at 20 Quay St., Pz. He was the one who married three times (hmmmm, still think that's odd). 2. One of his sons, Peter (1837-?) was also a master mariner and married Mary Hitchens Colenso. They had lots of children one of whom was Peter Percival Young born 20 December 1871. He joined the Royal Navy but sadly died on 12 January 1896 (arterial obstruction) at the Naval Hosptial in Hants. While I have a look into his siblings I thought I'd throw in the following little curioes: 1. The first Peter Young (b.abt. 1774) also had a daughter, Sarah born 1800. It looks like she married John Hugh in July 1831 a few months after her father died. I believe John Hugh was quite a bit older than her (25 years if the 1841 census is correct). John Hugh died in 1845 and I think Sarah might have married again but she was getting on a bit. I'm still looking at this one. 2. I have found a reference (OPC and Free BMD) to the baptism of Richard Dale Young to Sarah Young Spinster Madron 15 March 1867. I can't find Richard after that (census or death record). I'm not sure which Sarah was the mother or what happened to Richard. Sarah may have married after the birth but to whom? (Mr Dale perhaps?!) Any ideas? Nothing simple from me eh (CT - You like a challenge) Best wishes to all Loolah
The plot thickens! Most odd about Richard Dale/Samuel Young. Last week I ordered the birth cert. for Richard Dale Young but now I think I'll also get the death cert. for Richard Samuel to see if it gives any clues . Thank you for the inf. on Sarah Hugh's next marriage. I can look up Mr. Corin now. As for Hannah Dale nee Young, I had her tucked away in my Ancestry Shoebox but had forgotten all about her. I had saved her in the 1841 and 51 census but had forgotten why . When she was married to John Dale, she lived in Union Street and her mother, Sarah Young, was with her age 70. (Interestingly there was a Sarah Pidwell living close by.) Thank you also for the date of Sarah Young's marriage to George Fitall. I had Peter Young's last appearance in the census (1891) was with the Fitall family at Peter's house in Quay Street (he died the following year). I'm building up quite a picture of Peter Young and his descendants thanks to you and the other amazingly helpful folk I'll let you what I find when the certs arrive. Loolah
CT - what kind words indeed - thank you Now, back to the grindstone. The certs have arrived (very quick service from the GRO at the mo) and I can tell you the following: 1.Sarah Ann Young d/o Peter and Eliza was the mother of Richard Dale Young b. 31 December 1866 at St. Andrew Street, St. Ives. Sarah's address was Quay Street. I wonder who lived at St. Andrews Street? (I'm awaiting the death cert. for Richard Samuel Young - we'll see if that give any clues) 2.John Hugh, Sarah Young's rather old husband, died 27 September 1845 at Cambourne Street (where Sarah and John are recorded in the 1841 census). According to the cert. he was formerly a mason but late, a baker. John Dale of Chapel Street , Pz was the informant. I sure am filling up Peter Young's tree. Now for something completely different - Have you looked at the British Library's new online collection (http://newspapers.bl.uk/blcs) It's a bit pricey but I found a few articles that mentioned some of my Youngs. I also popped in Tonkin Young (I think it helps to have at least one unusual name in the tree!) and found an extract from the Liverpool Mercury death notices. It was about John Wearne Young, s/o Tonkin Young, who died on 7 January 1883 and is buried in Birkenhead. What was he doing in Liverpool I wondered. It said he was Second Officer City of Brussels so I googled City of Brussels and found the ship has been struck by another in thick fog on the Mersey on 7 January 1883. It sank in 20 minutes losing 10 hands - including John W Young. Fascinating stuff. I am such an anorak ! I'd better be off. Thank you again for your kind words. Loolah
CT - I have received the death cert. for Richard 'Samuel' Young. He died of Bronchitis on 18 January 1868 at the Union Workhouse, Madron. Mother was Sarah Young (so it looks like he is our Richard 'Dale' Young). I am unable to decypher what it says under her name. It looks like something of all something (not much help I know) . I shall get another pair of eyes to look at the wording. Anyway, I promised to let you know. I note that when Sarah married George Fitall they did not have any children (unless they came and went between census) So the saga continues... Loolah