Reading the latest from Heather was most interesting and reminded me that I had seen the above marriage early in this thread.
Thought I would take another look as th witnesses intrigued me.
And the question immediately following the marriage details got me thinking (Oh! my head hurts! ;D)
It just happens that I have a bit of knowledge about the family of John and Alice HARRY.
Alice HARRY's mother was Alice TREWHEELA who just happens to be a daughter of my direct ancestor Martin who married Alse PHILLIPS at Zennor in 1688.
John and Alice had 14 children with only two of those (Mary bn. 1773 and Richard 1775-1776) having died young.
The last child was Ann bp. 17th October 1784 and it is only she and elder brother Thomas for whom I do not yet have a marriage.
More and more intriguing - keeping in mind the details in the above quote.
So I have done a little bit of quick investigating.
Heather - In the above quote it is indicated that the marriage took place at Morvah yet your latest mentions that the Parish was actually Madron.
Can you confirm which is correct and also if there was any mention of the 'abode' of the bride and groom please?
Another point prior to the results of my investigation - please keep firmly in mind the names of the two witnesses!!!
Okay - given mention of the marriage of William TREMBATH and Jane HARRY occuring in Madron I decided to see what children they had baptised at Madron.
Most unusual - there were NONE at least up until 1820.
The plot thickens!
Let's focus on the two witnesses - Hannibal and Anne HARRY.
OH DEAR! - This is where I run into a little bit of a problem!
As I indicated - I have just a little knowledge of this part of the HARRY family and as far as I know right now the last Hannibal HARRY was baptised in 1762 at Morvah. (I certainly have no knowledge of any since that date but .....)
That Hannibal was the son of John and Alice and was baptised at Morvah in 1762.
It makes sense that at least one of the witnesses might be either the father or brother of the bride.
But if the bride was Jane HARRY then she cannot have been the sister of Hannibal.
Heather - I think I need you to check a couple of things at this point if you would please.
To the very best of my knowledge Jane d/o John and Alice HARRY married Thomas ROWE at Sancreed 23rd February 1799.
There is nothing in the marriage record to suggest Jane was from elsewhere however (at least in IGI) there would appear to be no other Jane HARRY possible given this next piece of information.
Although I have found no burial for Thomas ROWE as yet it is this Jane who is supposed to have married Henry QUICK at Morvah 25th October 1835.
That is the main piece of information I require to be checked!!
Jane QUICK, age 87 of Trewey Downs was buried at Zennor 13th March 1855.
This detail is a perfect match for Jane to have been Jane HARRY.
What this means, of course, is that she could not have been involved in the 1814 marriage to William TREMBATH.
Not only that but she would have been about 47 at the time of that marriage and therefore most unlikely to have had children.
At the risk of repeating myself - the fact that there were two HARRY witnesses to the marriage indicates a good possibility that the bride was closely related and probably a sister given that we are looking at John and Alice as parents.
And here is the problem!
IF Jane HARRY should actually read ANN HARRY then who the heck is the second witness - ANNE HARRY???
Having reasonably established that Jane d/o John and Alice could not have married William TREMBATH then we really need to find out who Anne was.
Complete details of that marriage to Henry QUICK 'should' help confirm her identity. (I hope)
Of the sons of John and Alice:-
John married Elizabeth BOASE in 1790
(two sons)
Hannibal married Sidwell EDWARDS in 1800
(one daughter - Jane)
Thomas - unknown but IGI shows no marriaes of a Thomas HARRY to an Ann in any Parish
Richard died at the age of 1
William married Mary BONE
So Anne was not a sister-in-law.
I am going round in circles now so will leave you with a couple of comments to add to the above to think about.
There is certainly a possibility that Ann d/o John and Alice HARRY was the bride of William TREMBATH - especially with Hannibal HARRY as a witness.
We have a problem because Ann would not be a witness to her own marriage.
Anne HARRY as a witness needs to be identified to help solve this problem.
It is possible that the Anne who witnessed the 1814 marriage of William TREMBATH was the daughter of John and Alice (therefore sister of Hannibal) which would mean that she could not be the bride.
If this last were the case then we would need to identify Jane HARRY.
So any information Heather can find, especially details of that 1835 marriage to Henry QUICK, may be valuable.
The other problem I have is with the inconsistency in age for Ann TREMBATH.
The 1841 Census most definitely puts the daughter of John and Alice right in the picture.
But later Census records along with her age as recorded when she died suggest she was born around 1790.
I hope I have not confused you too much here but things were looking really good until I looked at those witnesses again!
Anyway - see if you might be able to do something with it.
CT