marriage Camborne 26 Jul 1863 George Uren, 28 widower of Moor St, miner. Father THomas also miner/ Emily Faull 18 spinster of Moor St , father William (dec'd) miner. Witnesses Elizabeth Hosking (mark) John Duckham
Post by Cornish Terrier on May 26, 2012 9:12:18 GMT -5
Some answers methinks!
George Uren was baptised 6th January 1833 at St Austell to Thomas and Charlotte Uren of Holmbush
I am not certain if George was the second child of that name but there is a baptism for another George to Thomas and Charlotte 7th November 1831 (privately baptised October 19th). I have not been able to find a burial for this child but the fact there was a private baptism suggests that he was not initially expected to survive.
Thomas Uren married Charlotte Jeffery 27th August 1831 at St Austell
There were a number of other children to this marriage but I have not yet completed the search for them so will not list them for the moment.
In 1851 the family was at Tywardreath and in 1861 at St Blazey although in 1851 George appears to have been at Beerferris in Devon. He was certainly with his parents in 1861.
In the previous post Londoner presented the marriage of George Uren to Emily Faull and you will notice that he was a 'widower'. Bearing in mind that his mother's maiden name was Jeffery here is the first marriage:-
24th June 1862 St Blazey by Banns George Jeffery Uren, 29, bachelor, miner of St Blazey, son of Thomas Uren, miner Jane Greenslade, 23, spinster, of St Blazey, daughter of Daniel Greenslade, smith Witnesses:- Daniel Greenslade, Edward Morsfield (Bride and Groom both signed with their mark)
Jane Uren of St Blazey age 24 was buried 15th September 1862 at St Blazey
After Jane's death it appears George moved to Camborne where he married Emily Faull (both made their mark) and then, as you have previously posted, soon afterwards emigrated to the US.
Post by Cornish Terrier on May 26, 2012 17:32:08 GMT -5
Some more on the family of Thomas and Charlotte.
In the 1841 Census they are recorded as YOURN (a reflection on the pronunciation! and amongst their children is eldest son Thomas whose age is recorded as 12. If accurate then Thomas was born about 1828 or 1829 yet Thomas and Charlotte were not married until 27th August 1831. To be a son of Thomas and Charlotte then he would have to be either an illegitimate child or a son of Thomas from a previous marriage. Problem here is that Thomas was recorded as a bachelor when he married Charlotte.
AHA - got 'im!
Thomas Uren son of Charlotte Jeffery of St Austell baptised 27th October 1829 at St Agnes
The next part of the problem will probably require a bit more work to sort out and it concerns the exact identities of both George Uren and Emily Faull.
From what I have been able to find it appears that George is almost certainly the son of Thomas and Charlotte yet the original information from JudyLynn casts some doubt on this. George son of Thomas and Charlotte was baptised in January 1833 yet the information from JudyLynn states that the husband of Emily Faull was born in October of 1836. The discrepancy is almost four years.
BUT - I do have both marriage records which strengthen the case for him being son of Thomas and Charlotte.
In the first marriage in 1862 he was age 29 and recorded as George Jeffery Uren. The marriage was in June so he could have been born in late 1832 which matches nicely with a January 1833 baptism.
But when he married Emily Faull his in 1863 his age was recorded as 28! The old 'get one year older and reduce age by two trick'! ;D
And then the Census records indicate he was born about 1835 or 1836 and it is from there that his age seems to remain consistent. This then all indicates that the information in the death records in the US is not accurate.
I would suggest that the actually birth date might be correct but that the year is in error and should be 1832 rather than 1836.
More of a problem is Emily Faull whose birthdate in the original information is given as 1843. The marriage record in 1863 states that she was age 18 which means she should have been born about 1845 yet the only Emily Faull I can find with a father named William was not baptised until 1848 which would have her at age 15 when married! The record I have found is:-
Emily daughter of William and Sally Faull of Wheal Rose baptised 29th August 1848 at St Day
In 1841 William and Sally are at North Downs, Redruth and with them is daughter Emily who is then age 3.
There is another family with a daughter Emily who was age 9 in 1851 but that family is of John and Sarah Faull. The marriage record for Emily shows her father as William.
Post by Cornish Terrier on May 26, 2012 17:36:52 GMT -5
If Emily Faull was the daughter of William and Sally and she was actually younger than she stated when married then her parents would be:-
25th January 1847 St Agnes by Banns William Faul, bachelor, miner of Wheal Rose, son of Henry Faul, miner Sarah Youren, spinster, of Wheal Rose, daughter of George Youren, miner Witnesses:- John Faull, Henry Faull
Post by Cornish Terrier on May 28, 2012 2:44:29 GMT -5
The other option with Emily is that, as we have seen a number of times before, her father's name was incorrectly recorded in the Marriage Register.
I would need to find just when William Faull died and then perhaps see if I can find a burial for John Faull (husband of Sally). The Marriage Register shows that Emily's father was deceased so an error in the record might result from Emily's father dying when she was very young.