Hi just found this site. Have been working on my family history and found that most of my family worked in and around lelant and at Vorvas Downs? and also a Priscilla Boundy (nee Bryant) and William Boundy had a shop in Lelant any one know were this could have been. Thanks all the best George
Last Edit: Aug 10, 2007 17:09:00 GMT -5 by Zenobia
Hi thanks for the reply. My Grandfather Richard Henry Bryant on his birth certificate 26 Dec 1882 says Vorvas Downs Uny Lelant. His father was Matthew M Bryant a Tin Miner and his Mother was Annie Bryant (nee Martin) All the best George:)
Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 8, 2007 10:02:51 GMT -5
OK - let me see what I can find here and then look at some possible clarifications.
1881 Census - Vorvas Downs, Uny Lelant
Matthew Bryant, head, mar, 28, tin miner, bn. St Ives AMY Bryant, wife, mar, 29, bn. St Ives Mary C Bryant, daur, 6, bn. Uny Lelant Margret J Bryant, daur, 4, bn. Uny Lelant Amy Bryant, daur, 2, bn. Uny Lelant
I cannot, at the moment, find any of this family in the 1891 Census.
Going back prior to when Matthew would have been married I have found the following which I believe will be your Matthew Bryant.
1871 Census - Balnoon, Lelant
John Bryant, head, mar, 46, formerly blacksmith, Lelant Margaret Bryant, wife, mar, 44, Towednack John Bryant, son, unm, 20, tin miner, St Ives Matthew Bryant, son, unm, 18, tin miner, St Ives Catherine F Bryant, daur, unm, 16, rope spinner, St Ives Thomas M Bryant, son, unm, 13, works at tin stamps, St Ives James H Bryant, son, unm, 11, works at tin stamps, St Ives Job M Bryant, son, unm, 9, scholar, St Ives Welmot M Bryant, daur, 7, scholar, St Ives
It would appear this is your family but I would like confirmation before I try to go much further - especially as I cannot find them in 1891.
The following St Ives Marriage looks like the one for the couple of the 1871 Census above:-
31 Jan 1850 by Banns John Bryant 24 bachelor Labourer of St. Ives (Father: John Bryant, Labourer) Margaret Michell Berriman 23 spinster of St. Ives (Father: William Berriman, Miner) Witnesses: Wm. Richards, Thomas Williams
And this might be where the 'M' came into the family as a middle initial/name.
Would appreciate if you could fill in a couple more details to add to what you have given already.
I think the above will give you some ideas of what I need but would like you to look at this stuff first so we do not get too confused.
There seem to be a few connections involved here that will be worth checking into but let's get this little scenario sorted first.
John Bryant hd, m, 49 Agricultural Labourer, Uny Lelant Priscilla Bryant, wi, m, 52, Gwinear Elizabeth Bryant, da, u, 23, Uny Lelant Lavinia Bryant, da, u, 19 Schoolmistress, Uny Lelant Priscilla Bryant, da, u, 17, Assistant at the National School, Uny Lelant Thomas Bryant, so, u, 14 Agricultural Labourer, Uny Lelant Fanny Bryant, da, 10 Scholar, Uny Lelant Richard H Bryant, so, 8, Scholar, Uny Lelant
Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 9, 2007 12:37:32 GMT -5
The following from the 1881 Census belongs here, I believe:-
Dwelling: Lelant Village Or Town Census Place: Uny Lelant, Cornwall, England Source: FHL Film 1341562 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2340 Folio 64 Page 9 Marr Age Sex Birthplace William BOUNDY M 44 M St Agness, Cornwall, England Rel: Head Occ: Grocer Priscilla BOUNDY M 46 F Lelant Rel: Wife Occ: Grocers Wife Priscilla BRYANT W 83 F Gwinear Rel: Step Mother Occ: Chirrer
Priscilla Boundy being the daughter of John and Priscilla BRYANT.
The Marriage would be:-
8 Aug 1863 by License William Boundy full age draper Camborne (father: Richard Boundy, miner) Priscilla Bryant full age Uny Lelant (father: John Bryant, laborer) Witnesses: Lavinia Bryant, Richard Nicholls
I expect Lavinia Bryant would have been the elder sister of Priscilla.
And the above Census record also shows that Priscilla Bryant (83) was born at Gwinear about 1798.
To quote a song by Linda Ronstadt - "Poor, Poor, Pitiful Me"
Whilst trying to work through information for you I had forgotten to check some variant spellings.
John Bryant, labourer, married Priscilla SCADDON at Lelant 11th December 1824
I had no parents listed for either of them but I did have the following:-
John s/o John and Priscilla BRYANT bp. Lelant 18th May 1825 (from the Lelant PR)
This John married Margaret Michell BERRYMAN at St Ives 31st January 1850 and he died sometime before 1881.
Margaret Michell BERRYMAN was born at Towednack about 1826 and was the daughter of William BERRYMAN and Wilmot MICHELL who were married at Towednack 6th January 1823.
I had the last four chlldren of John and Margaret in my database - Thomas M, James H, Job M and Wilmot. (Thomas born Towednack and the last three at St Ives)
Moving back in time.
The mother of Priscilla Scaddon (Elizabeth BENNETTA) is more likely to be BENNETTS with an error in transcription having occurred. (The other alternative is BONNETTO but I have thought for years that this has also been an error). (I will log the name as 'Bennetts' for now)
I need to now skip back to the John BRYANT who married Priscilla SCADDON.
It would appear that this John is the following:-
BRYANT~John~Bur. 7 Jul 1870 Uny Lelant; age 68; B. abt 1802; of Lelant Town~
As for John's parents.
I note you mention he was son of George BRYANT and Christian VICTOR who married at Lelant in 1798.
Phillimore & Taylor records the names as follows:-
George BRYANT, w, lab., & Catherine VICTOR
(Bear in mind that Catherine and Christian were often interchangeable names.)
As far as I can find out the SCADDONS were originally from Ludgvan. The first to move to Gwiner was a Henry SKADAN (SCADDON) b1569, m Sarah DREW 1618 at Ludgvan. They later moved to Gwinear where he was known as a Yeoman.
Henry SCADDON=Elizabeth BENNETS m 6 June 1781 Henry and Elizabeth had 11 children
William b 1781 Henry b 1782 Frances b1789 Phillip b 1791 Elizabeth b 1793 John b1794 Jennifer b1795 Thomas b1797 *Priscilla b1799 William b1800 James b1804
I have found out that in the Eastern Cemetery at Lelant is a grave (number 171)
Priscilla BOUNDY (BRYANT) died on the 19 July 1857 age 54 William BOUNDY 1858 name on grave inscription but not buried there.
I have not had time to see this yet but hope to soon.
As for George BRYANT and Catherine VICTOR
This is as far as I have got. I know nothing of this family only that his son John BRYANT m Priscilla SCADDON
There is also a Brewery Hill in Lelant on the same map, which may indicate general locality. Will ask my dad if he knows where the Brewery may have been. I was assuming it was in the location of the present day Badger Inn at Lelant, but having read Maxwell Adams information I am in two minds about this.
Not very helpful I know, but will advise if I find anything further.
Oh, by the way, Vorvas Downs is in the middle of Lelant/Carbis Bay area. My gran and grandad (Craze) lived at Vorvas Farm. (Also spelt Worvas).