Quick and Trewhella families in Canada

[docboy]

I’m trying the waters with some hesitation. This ancestor tracing can be time consuming and I’m not sure how deeply to dive! I have an interest in the Quick/Trewhella lineages.
I did some work on it about ten or fifteen years ago, following my retirement. Cornish Terrier and I had some brief correspondence at that time. Then I got sucked into a host of volunteer activities that fully occupied my time.

I’m writing up an account of the Quick family (the Trevessa/Trevegia branch) in Canada for the benefit of my children. Our particular branch has been here over a hundred years and it makes an interesting story. However, I have come to realize that there are Quicks who left the old farm for “America” well before my immediate ancestors did. I have no idea whether “America” included Canada. There are two Quick families in my home city and they have no idea from where they came. They are certainly related but how far back, and by what pathway?

So, a couple of questions: I have the 1846 parchment transfer of title in which Paul Quick of Trevissa (b 1762, the son of Robert Quick and Ann Mitchell) of Trevissa turns over the leasehold to his nephew James Quick (b 1793 son of James Quick and Elizabeth Quick). There was another nephew, Robert Quick (b 1807), the son of Robert (b 1776), another of Paul’s brothers. This younger Robert married Mary Stevens and emigrated to “America”. In a will made some years prior to the transfer, Paul was anxious to have it recorded that if Robert should return from “America” he was to share in the property. (He never did return). Mention was also made of the daughter of the senior Robert Quick, who had married a James Quick (?) and also emigrated “to America”.

Q #1: Can anyone supply information concerning these Quicks emigrating to “America”?

Q#2: James Quick and Elizabeth Quick had another son, Robert (born 1796) who married Catherine Trewhella (b 1796) Why is he not mentioned? Had he died at the time the will was written? Or is it possible that family,too, emigrated to “America”

[Cornish Terrier]

Hello 'docboy' and welcome to this site.

Please send me a PM to remind me of our conversation and, indeed, just who you are as 15 years is a long time and I have discussed these families with a number of people in that time.

If you read through the QUICK threads you will see that there has been mention of many of these people.

You may also note that, at this time, we have come to no concrete conclusion as to what happened to the family of Robert and Catherine (nee TREWHELLA).

We have been working hard on the St Ives family but I am hoping soon to return to work more on the QUICKs of Zennor and Towednack.

Don't be afraid of getting too 'bogged down' here but we would certainly appreciate your input and discussion as we try to unravel the 'mysteries' surrounding the various families named QUICK.

It is possible that the above went to 'America' but I have nothing as yet to decide one way or the other.

I am interested in general but more specifically from the TREWHELLA point of view on this particular family.

Look forward to your next.

CT

[docboy]

Hello, Ian: I trust this is the proper method to reply to your query. I run (inefficiently) on a macintosh and these cryptic references on the penwith site to short cuts mention characters not even on my keyboard. Who am I? I'm Bill Quick, of Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada. I'm a retired university professor, a seed biologist. We corresponded some ten-twelve years ago and you were kind enough to correct a few mistakes that I had picked up from a history your uncle had written regarding the Trewhellas. My mother was a Trewhella. I will expand on this a little later. It's Valentines Day still over here and my male quartet still has some singing Valentines to perform. Hope to here more from you when you're done fighting fires. Isn't it a wonder .... floods in the north and drought and fires in the south!! Bill

[Cornish Terrier]

Well Hello Bill!
As I was preparing to read your latest I realised that it may well have been you.

The PM is a Private Message.
You can access the function from this screen quite easily.

Just below my avatar (the picture of the Terrier) you will find two icons.
The one on the left access email and the one on the right invokes the Private Message function.
Just click on it to enter the PM screen, compose your message and hit the send button.

I will have a look through other messages and then return to this to see just where we are up to.

CT

[Cornish Terrier]

Hi Bill - I have been going over your note again and must admit to becoming a little more confused with things.

If you have had a read through the various Quick threads you will note that there has been quite some discussion over the various men named Robert QUICK.

You might also notice that a number of them were carpenters/joiners, some born about the same time and also marrying women with similar names.

You mention that Robert QUICK married Mary STEVENS and that they went to 'America'.

Do you have any details of that marriage - i.e. when and where it occurred?

There was another Robert QUICK baptised at St Ives in 1808 and those fellow married a Mary Jane STEVENS at St Ives in 1841.

I have only been able to find two children for this couple but it seems the family remaned in St Ives and were certainly still there in 1881.

Could it be that we now have two Robert QUICKs who both married a Mary STEVENS!

You also mention a daughter of the 'senior' Robert QUICK (bn. 1776) - this would have been Elizabeth who married James QUICK at St Ives in 1837.

Oddly - this James was the brother of the Robert who married Mary Jane STEVENS in 1841!

Elizabeth's death is recorded in the Barnoon Cemetery Monumental Inscriptions (St Ives) and states she died in 1869.

Her husband, James, is recorded as having died at Ballarat, Victoria in 1884.

Are you able to supply more concise details of the Will of Paul QUICK and also of that Transfer?

And also, do you know when Paul died?

I know he was at Trevega in 1851 with his nephew James and at that time he was 88.

I will try and take another look at this problem tomorrow.

CT

[Cornish Terrier]

I have been trying to look over the information I have regarding Robert QUICK and Catherine TREWHELLA.

There are indications that Catherine may have died soon before the 1841 Census and she could be one of three whose deaths are recorded in FreeBMD for 1840 in the Penzance R.D.

Robert and his children were at Trevessa along with his widowed mother Elizabeth.

I need to recheck notes as I cannot recall if I find the family in 1851.

Daughter Wilmot, however, married John PENBERTHY at St Ives 19th April 1852 and had at least five children - Elizabeth bn. St Ives, John and Catherine at Towednack and Wilmot and Richard at Lelant.

Ah - Robert, along with son Matthew (14) and daughter Catherine (26) is at Halsetown in 1851 although Matthew would actually have been 17 and Catherine 28.

There seems little doubt this is the correct family.

I believe some of this has been described in one of the Threads in the 'Quick' section of Surnames of General Interest.

I will have another read through that and recheck everything but, if memory serves, I believe I found three of the other sons still in Cornwall in 1851.

Must get some rest but will take another look at this tonight.

CT

[Deleted]

Hello Bill

It is very nice to have a nother person who has an interest in the

Quick family join this form, so welcome to you.
I have the 1846 parchment transfer of title in which Paul Quick of Trevissa (b 1762, the son of Robert Quick and Ann Mitchell) of Trevissa turns over the leasehold to his nephew James Quick (b 1793 son of James Quick and Elizabeth Quick).

Would it be at all possible to get a copy of this document, or even a complete transcription for my own records please?

In a will made some years prior to the transfer, Paul was anxious to have it recorded that if Robert should return from “America” he was to share in the property.

I also have a large number of the Quick wills but I do not seem to have this one. Once again is it possible to obtain a copy?

I do have the will of the father of Paul which basically states the following:

Robert's will was proved on the 8th July 1809:-
Wife: Ann, 4 pounds a year during her life and other small things.
Son: James, all that estate in Trevessa Wortha, together with the house in Trevessa now occupied by James Quick.
Son: Robert, sixty pounds.
Son: Paul, all the rest and executor, and all the estate in Lower Travessa.

I have noted CT's comments and as you can imagine his comments are the same as mine at this stage. I am sure that some of the QUICKs went to the US, and I am also aware that some of the early ones may also have got to places like Barbadoes. I am more than happy to work with you along those lines especially using this forum.

Kind regads

Lannanta

[Cornish Terrier]

Docboy and Lannanta - I may have found something of interest in regards to the Trevessa family.

Mentions of the Will of Paul QUICK and Indentures or Leases with mention of family was involved last time we discussed this.

I have forgotten the details at the moment and not sure that the following is directly related to those documents but I do think there is a connection.

Although I have had this information for years I just noticed it again and tried to put it into perspective.

I have mentioned in other threads about the difficulties with trying to trace Cornish-born QUICKs in the US but ....

In the 1860 US Census for Sparta Twp, Sussex Co., New Jersey is the following group who were all enumerated in the one dwelling and all born in England except for James M (3) and Annie (1) Trewhella:-

John TREWHELLA, 35, foreman in zinc mine
Anna do., 39
James M do., 3
Annie do., 1
Edward TREWHELLA, 20, miner
Richard ALLEN, 19, miner
John ALLEN, 35, miner
Joseph TREGLOAN, 30, miner
John PIERCE, 22, miner
James BRAY, 20, miner
Paul QUICK, 23, miner

In the next dwelling:-

James ALLEN, 27, miner
Amia(?) do., 26
Charles J do., 5 (born New Jersey)
Elizabeth do., 2 (born New Jersey)

John TREWHELLA was the son of Martin and Clarinda (nee THOMAS) and 20-year-old Edward was his younger brother.

My initial focus tonight was the ALLEN boys because I now know that John TREWHELLA's wife, Anna, was also an ALLEN by birth.

But, of course, the name of Paul QUICK caught my eye and I began wondering about a possible connection between all these people given they are in the one household.

With a couple of possibilities to choose from my gut feeling is that this Paul QUICK was the following:-

Paul s/o James and Mary QUICK bp. 25th November 1838 at Towednack

James QUICK m. Mary QUICK 26th March 1825 Towednack

James s/o William and Elizabeth (nee HOLLOW)

Mary d/o James and Elizabeth (nee QUICK)

I will leave it at that for your observation and comment.

CT